You bet your ass if there's an undefended consulate I'd be pissed about it. However, I'm not a member of Congress, so what would you like me to do? And as for the pussies in the House getting rolled on tax increases, I'm furious with them. I don't give two shits about politics. I care about ideas and principles. But you keep on throwing poop at the wall; eventually something will stick.
My point wasn't to compare the two methods of killing people, but to ask why you don't jump on this forum all up in arms over someone killing an innocent person with their car? People use cars every day. The United States has one of the highest per capita car ownership in the world, and the availability and testing to get a license is shameful. How many people die from negligent driving every day? Why not remove cars from the world? They hurt the environment. They further our reliance on fossil fuels. They are extremely wasteful in terms of the energy used to create them and then dispose of them. They kill thousands of Americans. Why don't you throw a fit and rage about car ownership in America? You are partially responsible for the depletion of our ozone. You should be ashamed.
Showing a dead body? Go ahead and show the victims from this tragedy. I think people should see more death on the television; it would show the consequences of violence. Hell, we wouldn't show the people jumping from the WTC for YEARS. We still haven't seen Bin Laden. Ridiculous. Show it. And they're not gun laws; it's the Bill of Rights.
Cars, however, do serve a useful purpose outside of injuring or killing people, right? DO guns also, say, cut bread, or cook potatoes, or get you from point a to point b, or change the channel, or type a paper? Or do they really only serve one primary purpose. HUGE difference in your analogy.
Not sure if some of you know this, but I was an MP in the Army back in the day and trained and fired every weapon imaginable. I'm all for peoples rights, but when those rights lead to the deaths of innocent people, something has to change! I lost a few good friends back in HS because of this same shit! Very sad that an individual believes that it is their RIGHT to carry an automatic machine gun down the street.......... very sad.
HCP, anything can be dangerous. What if that person used a car to run down people on the street? What if that person bought fertilizer and fuel oil to make a bomb? Are you going to outlaw fertilizer, fuel oil and cars?
seriously, if they take our guns away, we as a people are REALLY fucked... we NEED guns to keep our government from stomping on our faces, if nobody has guns but the government, thats game over look around...every sane person should be in this line
Tell you what, Nate - you start the thread and I'll contribute to it. You're quite right. "Throw a fit"? I'm far too mature for that. It's practically impossible to type when you're doing that. But I do think the state of public transport in America is pathetic. Of course, not in Portland, I'm given to understand. But just for shits and giggles, what function akin to "getting to work" are guns performing? It doesn't seem to be lowering the crime rate or saving people's lives, judging by America's abysmal showing compared with the rest of the developed world in both of those.
You think they're not doing that already? Don't you know Vince Foster was found with tire tracks all over him? But fortunately, the second amendment guarantees me my right to own shoulder-launched missiles. Clearly that was the founders' intent. Those and dirty bombs.
if a few random killings get 100 million people to voluntarily give up their hundreds of millions of guns, so be it the government stealing them in the name of the so called "greater good"? bullshit
When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyrrany. Right now, I fear the government; it certainly doesn't fear me.
The "ACRU"? I'm sure that's a very reliable source of information. I just wonder why I've never heard of it before... Oh, and the cited study? Here's a picture of one of the authors: And I'm sure you'll be interested in this assessment of his work, ABM.
because they can shoot and kill you guns are for killing, anyone that pulls a gun out as a "deterrent" better be prepared to use it
