Shooting at Umpqua Community College: 10 dead

I'm truly sorry for your loss.

 

Why not tell the more accurate and complete story about this?

Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations. However, it is generally not permitted to keep army-issued ammunition, but compatible ammunition purchased for privately owned guns is permitted. At the end of military service period the previously used gun can be converted to a privately owned gun after a weapon acquisition permit has been granted (fully automatic weapons will be rebuilt into semi-automatic ones). Switzerland thus has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world.


Buying guns
In order to purchase most weapons, the purchaser must obtain a weapon acquisition permit (Art. 8 WG). Swiss citizens over the age of 18 who are not psychiatrically disqualified nor identified as posing security problems, and who have a clean criminal record can request such a permit. Foreigners with the following citizenship are explicitly excluded from the right to possess weapons: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania (Art. 12, WV). The following information must be provided to the cantonal weapon bureau together with the weapon application form:

• valid official identification or passport copy
• residence address
• criminal record copy not older than 3 months

For each transfer of a weapon or an essential weapon component without weapons acquisition permit (Art. 10 WG), a written contract must be concluded. Each Party shall keep them at least ten years. The contract must include the following information (Art. 11 WG):

• Family name, first name, birth date, residence address and signature of the person who sells the weapon or essential weapon component
• Family name, first name, birth date, residence address and signature of the person who purchases the weapon or an essential weapon component
• Kind of weapon, manufacturer or producer, label, caliber, weapon number, and date and place of transfer;
• Type and number of official identification of the person who acquires the weapon or the essential weapon component
• and an indication of the processing of personal data in connection with the contract in accordance with the privacy policy of the Federation or the cantons, if firearms are transmitted.

This information must be sent within 30 days to the cantonal weapon registration bureau, where the weapon holders are registered (Art. 9 WG).

Some weapons do not need a weapon acquisition permit (Art. 10 WG):

• Single-shot and multi-barreled hunting rifles and replicas of single-shot muzzle
• By the Federal Council designated hand bolt-action rifles, which are commonly used in off-duty and sporting gunnery recognized by the military law of 3 February 1952 and shooting clubs for hunting purposes in Switzerland
• Single-shot rabbit slayer;
• Compressed air and CO2 weapons that develop a muzzle energy of at least 7.5 joules, or may be confused because of their appearance with real firearms

Buying Ammunition


Ready ammunition of the Swiss Army. Soldiers equipped with the Sig 550 assault rifle used to be issued 50 rounds of ammunition in a sealed can, to be opened only upon alert and for use while en route to join their unit. This practice was stopped in 2007.[9]
In order to purchase Ammunition the buyer must follows the same legal rules like for buying guns. The buyer can only buy munition for guns he/she is legally owning and must provide the following information to the seller (Art. 15, 16 WG; Art 24 WV):[7][8]

• valid official identification or passport (and must be older than 18 who are not psychiatric-ally disqualified nor identified as posing security problems, and must not be a citizen of the following countries (Art. 12 WV): Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania)
• residence address
• criminal record copy not older than 3 months
• weapon acquisition permit not older than 2 years, or a weapon carrying permit not older than 5 years

This also applies for weapons which do not require a weapon acquisition permit (see above, excluding the weapon acquisition permit, of course).

This information must be sent within 30 days to the cantonal weapon registration bureau, where the weapon holder is registered.

The same applies to black powder and modern black powder substitutes for use in firing historical rifles.



A Swiss 100 gram black powder container.
The possession of the following munition is generally prohibited:

• Ammunition with armor piercing bullets
• Ammunition with projectiles containing an explosive or incendiary device
• Ammunition with one or more floors to the release of substances which damage the health of people in the long run
• Ammunition, missiles and missile launchers for military explosive
• Ammunition with projectiles for transmitting electric shocks
• Ammunition for handguns with deformation effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland

 

Jeesh, you guys might as well be saying

"Sorry for your loss, but I must win my argument online! I'll stop next time"

 

But there is much more to it than just the simplicity and vagueness of the statistic that you stated.

Mandatory military service.

Mandatory military weapons training.

National registration of weapons and weapons owners.

National registration of ammunition and ammunition purchasers.

Look at the control. Much much much stricter than here. The safety is in the training and control of the weapons. Not the amount of guns. Surely you understand that right? Using Switzerland as an example only shows what increased control can do, not what increased gun ownership can do.

 

I didn't neglect anything. I included that information. I didn't point it out to Mags because it had no bearing on the point he was erroneously trying to make.

As far as your list goes why do you want to prevent everyone on RipCityTwo from owning a gun?