Well I’m not sure what he’s talking about then but it’s currently hunting season and he told me straight up they can’t have rifles, only shotguns
Like in Australia? Where a firearm now costs about $20,000 on the black market? Sure, you may still be able to find and buy one, but it's very difficult, very expensive and they have been pushed so far underground that many Australians say they wouldn't even know where to buy one illegally if they wanted to anymore.
Yes, but if you have to force someone into some mental illness box to try to explain the actions post-tradegy, is that really beneficial? I found an article about one of the books that touched off the discussion of Hitler being mentally ill or not. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/11/17/s...-psychiatrist-takes-a-new-look-at-hitler.html But as I said, you might be right on this one, I just don't know.
In America this scenario just isn’t possible. And I’m sure Australians out there still find ways to inflict harm on one another
Just like you can't trap certain animals or you have to hunt with arrows certain times of years. But those aren't strict gun laws, those are strict hunting laws.
I agree that it's not a probable scenario in America. But your argument of Chicago has nothing to do with banning guns. IF you want to talk about banning guns, look at places that have banned them.
Actually the population has gone up significantly since the ban yet both total homicides and total gun homisides have gone down substantially. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ck-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html How murder and suicide figures plummeted in Australia after gun control laws were introduced In the wake of the concert massacre in Las Vegas, the deadliest mass shooting in recent US history, commentators have pointed to Australia’s 1990s crackdown on gun ownership as an example of how to prevent similar atrocities. On Monday, 59 people were killed and more than 500 injured when a gunman opened fire from a room in the Mandalay Bay hotel, reportedly using a rapid-firing semi-automatic weapon. Asked whether new gun control rules would follow, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said: “There will be time for that policy discussion to take place but that’s not the place that we are in at the moment.” Nonetheless, the example has again been raised of how Australia responded to a mass shooting of its own in 1996, when a lone gunman killed 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania. The government of John Howard instituted a ban on, and a mass, compulsory buy-back of, certain kinds of guns, destroying nearly 660,000 rapid-fire weapons over two years amid other measures. Since then Australia has not suffered another mass shooting, defined by academics as the killing of five or more people, not including the perpetrator. Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns. In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said. .....
Narcissism is definitely something that came to mind before reading that. Sounds like he had a shit ton of physical issues which could also be linked mentally. After going through a personal tragedy myself two years ago involving my girlfriends family member who ended up killing another family member, I kinda have studied mental health more closely and kinda have a bit more understanding on it. I would of done what most people did if I didn’t go through it and call her mom evil and a bad person but after seeing how she acted and still acts from time to time, her psychosis, etc. it’s interesting. It’s a mind fuck really. Her mom wasn’t normal for the four years I knew her it seemed then that last year where the event happened she got paranoid and that led to psychosis and hallucinations. She was obsessed with Disney movies and would write insane math equations on paper and the shit was creepy. Then one day she pulled the trigger on her own son. Somebody that is the last person I would think she would ever do that to. Honestly. In the two years I have had to process that, it’s been a ride. I remember the media and the comments people would type. They wanted her dead. They didn’t understand. Mental illness isn’t something easy to understand. There is so much to it. Shit that most people don’t even think of.
I only used that also because most of the guns acquired are through the black market. If a van ever occurred which I don’t think it will, in a hypothetical crazy scenario of guns being taken, they would be sold on the black market and be accessible to those who know how to get them
At first, yes. As time went on, and scarcity took root, the prices would be driven to excess for most villains. We both agree that it isn't likely to happen, but follow my train of thought for a moment please. If guns were banned and they did something similar to Australia with a buy back law put in place, what would happen? Well, I think most gun owners would fall into one of two categories, 1) those that would obey the law. All those guns would be bought back by the government and destroyed. 2) those who would not sell their guns back and would instead hoard those guns. I doubt that most of the people who kept their guns would be willing to then sell those guns. They would hold onto them as a just in case scenario. So, on the black market we would have a greatly reduced number of guns because many were destroyed and many of the remaining guns would be off the market forever as people would not want to give up their hidden and not easily replaced guns. So, that $600 Glock would skyrocket in price. Over time it would be 1, then 2 the 5 then 10+ thousand dollars. The black market would dry up. I think that if a total ban were implemented there would be a revolt in America so it just isn't going to happen. However, I think if somehow there were no revolt, the ban would be quite successful in greatly reducing gun violence and most likely also reduce overall homicide and even suicide rates.
I get what you’re saying but I’m more so on the stricter checks and laws train. A lot of people enjoy just shooting their guns on a range as a hobby or hunting. I wouldn’t want to take that freedom away from them. I just boil down the issue to the fact that it’s too easy to get guns in most places and mental health. Other than that most Americans own a gun and don’t do bad things with them
I think your stance is honorable and likely fairly close to mine. I also don’t want to ban all guns. But it is important in any discussion or debate to tell the truth about your oppositions arguments. A ban Would most likely reduce gun violence and likely other capital violence too as it has in Australia. Then, from that standpoint you can honorably discuss the pitfalls and drawbacks of which there are many.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tweets-condolences-to-wrong-town-after-mass-shooting/ I guess they are getting so commonplace that new shootings don't even deserve new tweets.
