Should have traded Aldridge for harden

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  1. ponderguy

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    I never said I wanted to trade him, just that I think it is a pretty fair deal. My response was to this:
    Remember when some of you guys were fine with trading Aldridge for Lee, Barnes and Klay? Or how about the Monroe, stucky and first rounder?

    I agree about the Monroe deal being really bad now but Klay and Barnes are still very good and developing players who would fit in with this team really well and would really bolster our bench with a ton of talent. Lee while not spectacular would be a nice offensive and rebounding big. If we HAD to trade LMA that would be one of the deals I'd prefer
     
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    This. The Golden State trade was the only one that was rumored and actually didn't sound horrible.
     
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    I think what KS is getting at is Okay, Lee is a nice offensive and rebounding big... but LMA is doing that BETTER, so we would lose there. Klay would be a redundancy of Batum, who we get MORE out of with the assists and rebounds and overall better stats, where Klay is just a shooter primarily. With Barnes... he's good, but with this trade we would already be behind and Barnes doesn't cover that slack.
     
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    I dunno - Barnes and Klay replacing Mo and Wright would give us one potent bench, and would likely make up for the drop-off from LMA to Lee. Our bench could probably average >35ppg depending on how many minutes Barnes/Klay got.
     
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    I see that, but whenever you're trading for a starter, I expect them to be starting for the team they are traded for unless age is a factor, which for Klay obviously isn't.
     
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    Klay's more a redundancy of Matthews than anything else. Either way, with this deal, we would have been trying to find minutes for Thompson, Matthews, Barnes, and Batum, which simply wouldn't have worked. Also, we wouldn't have had enough cap-space to be able to trade for both Robinson AND Lopez (Lee/Klay/HFB make 4.3M more than LMA), so we wouldn't have picked up Lopez (especially since we wouldn't have been trying to placate an unhappy Aldridge), so that would have been another major effect.

    Hindsight 20/20, we're very fortunate this never happened.
     
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    Well said! Repped.
     
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    If we had made the trade, I would have looked to move Batum to Detroit for Monroe.

    Dame
    Thompson
    Barnes
    Monroe
    Lopez

    It is arguable whether our current starting five would be better long term than that starting five.
     
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    And remember, the forum asked for Klay and Barnes with Lee. The rumor was only klay or Barnes with Lee, so realistically the rumor was even less if a value.
     
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    This is true. I think most of us rejected the idea of JUST Klay and Lee, or Barnes and Lee.
     
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    Everything is arguable.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Especially when we're talking long term :devilwink:
     
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    We'd have to go small ball some of the time, Barnes is really good in that role. I think GS should be going with Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Bogut as their starting 5. If we think we have good shooting now just imagine a lineup of Dame,Wes or Klay, Batum and Barnes with Lopez and Lee splitting time at C.
     
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    It would suck, just like Golden State is sucking now
     
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    I guarantee we will have a stretch where we go around 13-10. Just because they didn't have a hot start like we did doesn't mean they aren't a good team. If you go through their schedule most of their losses are against really good teams
     
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    Wanna wager that Portland will have a stretch of 13-10? I am 100% certain that will never happen.
     
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    I'm game. what's the wager?
     
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    You must post on your signature that the other poster is a magical genius all summer.
     
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    That's weak Mags! Come up with something good.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Give me some ideas
     
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