Should Neil be on the hot seat?

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    If the job was "convince LMA to stay" (and really, only PA could've ordered that) then you could say he busted his butt but was dealt a losing hand. If it was "keep the team in the playoffs every year", he endangered it by hitching his plans to LMA's whims. He let a UFA get to free agency, whether it was by trusting the UFA or by trusting his skills to bring him back. Regardless, if LMA leaves, Neil's cachet takes a hit from me. The guy who signed Gordon only to ditch him once CP3 was available didn't pull the trigger on any packages for LMA over the last two years since LMA's initial frustrations.

    (Edit: Changed "done it" to "ordered that" to clarify)
     
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    He "let him get to free agency without an extension or trade".
     
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    It's harder to trade a guy who will be a UFA. The risk for the team taking him in trade is he bolts like DHoward did to the Lakers.

    Rather than "let him become a UFA," it looks to me like Olshey did everything in his power to get LMA to stay. In the modern CBA, guys becoming UFA and re-signing with their team is pretty common. Asik just re-signed with New Orleans, for example.
     
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    Yeah but I don't think that's on him. I think that's on Paul Allen and.Lamarcus and Olshey is stuck in a lose lose there. Let's see what plays out. I really hope he chooses Phoenix and we can pry some players away.
     
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    The Blazers will not get "nothing" for LMA, they'll have a LOT of cap space. Anyone you'd trade LMA for might not be as good as the guys you sign with the cap space.

    FWIW

    I think if you want LMA to stay, you do exactly what Neil did.
     
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    Wow, good job digging up those numbers. I didn't realize that such a small percentage of UFA resigned with their old team.
     
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    When LMA told Neil he wasn't going to re-sign with the Blazers in 2013, they had a big offer from CLE including at least #1 overall, #19 and Tristan Thompson (some rumors had future 1st instead of the #19 or Thompson).
    When LMA didn't sign the max extension last year, I said you should trade him while you could and get a similar package to what Love brought for CLE.

    Now, we get the chance to throw money and hope that Greg Monroe or Roy Hibbert graces us with their services. Cap space!
     
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    That's true, cap space shouldn't be considered "nothing". You're supposed to be able to get a pretty decent player with max money.
     
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    I don't think we can know if Olshey should be on the hot seat. We aren't privy to the behind the scenes work. PA will have to look at everything Olshey has done and determine if his setbacks are due to poor decisions or lack of options due to the market.
     
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    Wow, Anthony Bennett for LMA? Woot! (sorry for the sarcasm).

    Tristan Thompson is ok, sure, but Monroe is better IMO.
     
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    Did it occur to you that they wouldn't have picked Anthony Bennett? Sure they probably wouldn't have picked the best player (Gobert/Giannis), but at the very least they would have gotten Noel (Solid), Oladipo (Good), or Len (Solid).
     
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    All we do know is Bennett went first. We don't know that there was a real offer for LMA from Cleveland, just rumors reported in the tweeter thingy.
     
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    I'm starting to come around to the idea, maybe?
     
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    Yea, hotseat it is, but i still blame LMA more than Olshey
     
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    I'm sorry but Olshey is still a damn good gm even if LA leaves. Look how young we have gotten in the past week. We have a lot of young players who can actually play and be developed.

    We can't keep firing GMs because Portland sucks as an NBA city to a lot of players. He is a keeper, I will stand by that.
     
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    I would keep Olshey over Stotts.

    Not to say I would run Stotts out of town but not sure the team Olshey is going to put together (if he can even get anyone to sign) will be Stotts cup of tea.
     
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    I think Stotts gets one year without LA. We will get to see his real offense without him I bet.
     
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    The angry part of me fee like the only seat Olshey should be on is his ass on the sidewalk, but the other part of me sympathizes with him...you know he's gotta have something hard in that coffee this morning.
     
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    The Bucks have a brighter future than we do. The frickin' T'Wolves have a brighter future.

    If Ole' isn't on the hot seat, there is no seat to get hot.
     
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    Didn't Olshey basically inherit a team with Oden and Roy with career ending injuries and taking up cap space?
     
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