Should the Blazers resign Zach Collins?

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Should the Blazers resign Collins and for how much?

  1. Yes, he is worth a multi year contract

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    4.9%
  2. Yes, for the qualifying offer one year $7 million

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    8.5%
  3. Yes, for the veteran minimum

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    46.3%
  4. No at any price, he is not worth a roster spot

    33 vote(s)
    40.2%
  1. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I absolutely agree that you go with the odds, but any smart gambler does what they can to play the odds to their best advantage. In this case, it’s getting as much medical advice as possible and then making the call.
     
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    The doctor going tell oshey how long he probably be out for and that olshey can make the decision what he going to do. I don't much he worth but I believe if doctor said he probably ready to start activity by January then I think olshey keeps him. Players get hurt in this league sometime it's minor and some are major but if a player can come in reasonable amount of time and believe he can help down then you signed that player and if not then cut ties.
     
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    One thing I would want to know is whether there’s anything different about the surgery that they did this time vs what was done the other two times. Might that improve the odds of a recovery or are they just doing the same thing each time and hoping it works better than the ones that failed?
     
  4. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    What the fuck?!?
     
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  5. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Yeah, what????
     
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    LOL...ok then great....Zach's missed 2 seasons, and is about to miss a 3rd, but his knees are healthy
     
  7. James lamphear

    James lamphear Well-Known Member

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    Good question it's seems the other 2 wasn't very successful. The other question is this the same surgeon that did the first two.
     
  8. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Many times it has nothing to do with the surgery or surgeon but it's a lack of blood flow in that area. Low blood flow means it doesn't heal right. I believe that I read somewhere that his father had a very similar injury in college that never healed right so he couldn't play again.

    If this is the case there is no point in re-signing him.
     
  9. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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  10. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Ah yes, the good old “Absolutely worth it IF he’s healthy”

    Because really
    Signing him is absolutely worth it IF he’s healthy.
     
  11. Fairly-Hard

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    Sorry to say this.
    The "Zach Collins" era is officially done.
     
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  12. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Neither Hood or Meyers had a trade veto ability.
     
  13. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    This is factually wrong. You mean should be done, I assume.
     
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    *Sniffle*....*Wipes tear*.....

    No......

    *cry.....*
     
  15. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    Factually you are correct.
    My personal "Opinionally" i don't believe i am.
     
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    KristinthBonkers McLovin, Nice!

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    I sure hope those who are demanding Neil make a trade realize that he has limited trade pieces to do so, Who cares about $21 million? It doesn’t impact anybody that posts here and if Dame leaves because a trade that could happen with that contract is unavailable, he’s going to get bashed. Some people appear to be expecting a roster miracle while also limiting options to make that happen.

    Seems odd to demand roster changes while also taking away a potential $7.3 million that’s an expiring contract. I negotiate pleas and such so perhaps my mind works differently because I don’t view Zach as a valuable player, but I do view his contract as being a major asset.
     
  17. KristinthBonkers

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    Right? Zach isn’t going to get more than the vet minimum from anyone which for a 4-year veteran is less than $2 million. As you said, I’m sure he’ll gladly waive the no-trade clause to make $7.3 million instead of less than $2 million. Zach would waive it so quickly it would be hilarious.

    I’m not going to try and convince people that don’t comprehend the value of that QO as a trade piece, but if Neil doesn’t extend it and can’t make any deals as a result, he should be fired on that gaffe alone.

    The same people criticizing Neil for the roster now want to take away perhaps the most valuable contract on the roster. Oh well...
     
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    I’m 99% positive that isn’t true. A trade exception can’t be combined in a trade but I’ve never heard that about a QO. If the NBAPA negotiated that, they’re stupid and costing their members money. Why sign anyone to a QO if they can’t be part of a larger deal?

    If it’s correct then obviously you don’t sign him to the QO, but I need evidence of it because it doesn’t turn up on a Google search and I can’t find it in the CBA.
     
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  19. KristinthBonkers

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    Just wanted to be factual. Including Oden and the other guy as examples of foot injures derailing careers made no sense.
     
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    Kanter can’t be traded until December and wouldn’t take a one year contact here. Do people not understand the value of $7.3 million expiring contract for a capped out team that needs to improve?

    How many potential deals are to be missed waiting until Kanter can be traded, and why would a Kanter re-sign here only to be traded?
     

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