Notice Should the Portland Trail Blazers trade for Tyreke Evans?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Would you offer our 2018 first round pick (currently sitting at 21st), for what would likely be a short term rental of Evans?

    I think Evans would be a great fit here, but we probably won't be able to re-sign him this summer. Makes giving up that pick kind of hard to justify.

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    Boob-No-More, Jan 31, 2018
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    No, not if he was a rental.
     
    Chris Craig, Jan 31, 2018
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    How would he not be? MEM doesn't hold his Bird Rights, or he probably would have been traded by now.

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    going through all the pros and cons listed in the tread, I am in agreement that the only way is if we could get a verbal commitment that he would stay beyond this year. Love the guys size and he has good handles. Lets us shed a few pint sized players.
     
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    Not sure why any team would do this.
     
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    the only team thats going to give them a 1st rounder is cleveland and it wont be the brooklyn pick.

    I bet we could get tyreke for a couple second rounders and maybe noah or baz
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    If the Blazers can jettison a bad contract for him, even if it requires sweetening the pot with a pick, then I don't have any objections to trading for him. If people think he's actually going to change this team's fortunes in terms of the playoffs, then I object a lot -- nothing more than a "shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic" level move, but he can improve their cap situation which might help out in a couple of years.
     
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    It's not about a verbal commitment. It's a financial issue. Portland will only have the Tax MLE that they could pay him (around $6M). He's sure to get more than that on the open market.
     
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    Hey, I am not at all up to date on the latest CBA agreement, but it does not take too much of an imagination to reason out that if the organization wanted to retain him, there are was to do so.
     
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    If you were more up to date on the latest CBA agreement, you would know that it would actually take a lot of imagination for the organization to be able to find a way to retain him, the very start of which would be somehow divesting itself of several large albatross contracts, which is of course easier said than done.
     
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    Those ways to do so come at a significant cost... such as not resigning Nurk (and being left without a starting C) or paying a team to take Turner (which would take MULTIPLE firsts during the FA frenzy).

    The current CBA makes it VERY DIFFICULT for teams in Portland's position.
     
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    I get that, I realize that the team i in a poor position to make moves without really shaking up things.

    Off the top of my head, lets say that we do a three team deal the includes some bad contracts and a desirable player, like CJ (who I really like). Lets face it, I am not in love with this team as a whole. There are no sacred cows. I would trade anyone as long as we improve, including Dame.
     
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    Yeah, not so much. That's why Bird Rights are so valuable. It's why the Gilbert Arenas Rule was made. It's why Early Bird is a thing. There weren't ways to do things, so that the original team was screwed out of even giving a chance. Similar to how a toxic contract offer can't say, for instance, "Allen Crabbe will play 50% of his games in Brooklyn. Signed, Brooklyn" "HA! You can't match all the clauses, Blazers!" (this was the "Hutchinson Rule" in NFL).

    If the organization wants to retain him, they can do one of three things. 1) sign him to the taxpayer MLE. 2) Jettison roughly 20M of salary to sign him to the non-taxpayer MLE and hard cap yourself at the apron in 2018-19. 3) Jettison roughly 40M of salary to be able to even start to give him more than the MLE. That's all.

    EDIT: ^^what PP said, if I'd bothered to read the rest of the thread
     
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    Celtics will offer their IMO, and Cavs might too though I expect Cavs to move for DeAndre Jordan with their pick instead, or Mirotic, not Evans.

    I think 76ers will offer two second rounders and one of their young players - they badly want to make the playoffs. To be fair it would be a better deal for Grizzlies. Your chances of hitting jackpot while picking twice in 35-45 range (I think Sixers have Knicks and Nets second round picks) are probably better than picking once at 26 or 27 .
     
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    Guess I need to bone up, my friend. I recall PDX sucking up bad contracts to attain a player, only to buy them out. Is that still available now? Or better stated, cant we package CJ or some with market value with a bad contract or two?
     
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    Just make sure you don't take any chances though!
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    If that's the case then the question is moot.
     
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