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  1. handiman

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    By agreeing, you're contradicting yourself... Lillard's low defensive rating would not be low if the same held true for other starters.

    There's no getting around the fact that he's a horrible defender. Even backups blow by him with ease. A great scheme might be able to hide him, but even that's asking a lot. CJ, at least, could be an adequate defender in the right system.
     
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    He's not horrible. I don't see anyone just "blow by him".
     
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    I'm watching game 4 against GSW right now. Lillard is playing some decent D on Curry, arguably the best in the game?
     
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    Sure, pick an example of someone playing on a gimpy leg...

    Every statistic paints Lillard as one of the worst defenders in the league, and all the national writers say the same thing, yet some of you still "defend" him. Whose the crazy one?
     
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    Sorry. It was game three I was watching. the one we won. No Curry. Dame was D'd up on Thompson quite a bit and though Thompson got his numbers, he took alot of contested/poor shots.
     
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    It was proven that the national writers dont know everything....27 wins remind you of anything?

    With that said, I never said he was good at D, just saying I think he is better than worst in the league.

    Second, and again, very few all stars are good at everything. a few are and most superstars are.

    IF Dame isn't perfect he gets shit. Sometimes he gets more shit than he deserves in my opinion is all.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    And Curry had the best OT performance ever in the history of the game that night. Not a good look for Dame any way you slice it.

    Part of the blame for Dame's defense has to go on Terry's conservative system and lack of any semblance of rim protection. It forces our PGs to get around a million picks every night-- it leaves the middle of the floor wide open because we rarely switch, and our bigs are completely immobile and can't block shots.

    But Dame does slack quite a bit and gives up once he's beaten. He has slow lateral movement, and still doesn't know the correct angles to get around picks-- he still gets demolished by even just 1 pick in a set. A team like SA which runs sometimes 5 P&Rs in a single possession puts Dame in a whirlwind when he's done with a play. That 2014 second round against Tony Parker was horrifying to watch. This is going to be his fifth year-- let's hope he can at least get better at the stuff HE can control.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Pretty much every defensive metric says otherwise. He might not be the ABSOLUTE worst, but he's down in the bottom 10.
     
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    You can stick a lot of things on Dame about his defense, but not Curry's OT performance in Game 4. Stotts switched Lillard onto Barnes and had Aminu trying to cover Curry.



    OT begins at about 5:15.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Noted. Curry was cooking everyone that night in OT. But Dame needs to be switched off the PG a lot. It's a deficiency in our lineups. Same thing GS does with Curry.

    I'd rather not watch that. It's this era's Game 7 2000 WCF in selective omission my memory.
     
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    You'll probably enjoy this one more. Lillard makes Curry's "defense" look like garbage.

     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Seen that one approx 82643 times this summer. Good lookin out
     
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    Haha
     
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    This game is the best Vonleh looked all year as well.
     

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