Siakam Or Simmons?

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Who would you rather the Blazers trade for Siakam or Simmons

  1. Pascal Siakam

    50 vote(s)
    56.2%
  2. Ben Simmons

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    43.8%
  1. Rastapopoulos

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    nurk sticking up for his future teammate

     
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    Not that I’m an expert but looking at his form he doesn’t extend his left arm fully kind of short arms it which could be why he’s so inconsistent.
     
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    think it's a Klutch connection, but it's funny to see him come to Ben's defense after his exchange.

     
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    yeah i know

    i thought the same thing
     
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    I dislike Simmons, seams like a giant baby to me.
     
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    Raps won't listen to a package that doesn't include Haliburton and the Clippers don't have the assets. On top of that the source in the article says Siakam doesn't want to be traded.

    Siakam's not getting dealt.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    All of these trades scenarios are just that. Nothing concrete. First off, you're not trading a generation talent for anything but a "and the kitchen sink" compensation package. Simmons is not a generational talent. Portland would want Simmons, Siakam, and picks in a return package. Not a bunch of unproven youngins, that absolutely don't fit the timeline of your other good players. I don't see why Golden State would want Simmons, unless they're ready to ship Green away. Toronto does seem to be in rebuild mode so a Simmins to Toronto deal makes sense for them, but not for Philly. So what we have is a J Geils Band situation. You love her, but she loves him, but he loves somebody else, you just can't win. The only way i see this work is If CJ is involved. CJ, and 2021 draft picks (GS) to Philly , Simmons to GS, Green to Portland. That works for everyone. Without being delusional.
     
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    Siakam's huge dip in three-point shooting last season would concern me a lot, considering that's the only thing he theoretically does better than Simmons, while Simmons is much better than Siakam at essentially everything else. Shooting is a huge deal in this era, so if Siakam is back to shooting like it's 2019/2020, then that does even things out a lot.
     
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    Siakam has a shoulder injury. Having seen how long it took Zach Collins to recover - I would choose Simmons only because he does not have this issue.
     
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    No way golden state would trade for Simmons without also trading Draymond, those two could never work together. Could get a three way going with Draymond to Portland and CJ to Philly.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    GSW GETS:

    Ben Simmons
    Derrick Jones Jr
    CJ Elleby
    Future 2nd

    PHI Gets:

    CJ McCollum
    Jonathan Kuminga
    Moses Moody
    2 future 1sts
    2 future swaps

    POR GETS:

    Draymond Green
    James Wiseman
    Seth Curry
     
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    If Golden State is trading Green (which I doubt they would), they're not also trading Kuminga, Wiseman, Moody (and more first-rounders, if those first-rounders are supposed to come from Golden State).

    Golden State already turned down that deal for Simmons (Wiseman, both lottery picks this year--since it was before the draft--and two future first rounders). Now you're suggesting a deal where they give up everything they already refused to do plus Draymond Green. That's obviously not going to happen.

    If they decided to trade Green (which would be very hard for them to do, chemistry-wise), maybe they'd add a couple future first-rounders. Green would obviously have to be the main return of what they're sending out.
     
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    Blazers would be sending some of the picks if not all.

    If GSW is getting Simmons, The 76ers get what they want, the Blazers get there's too.

    Maybe take out one of Kuminga or Moody
     
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    Sure as hell better than those moronic Dame trades put on this site. All teams in this get good comp. But in those stupid Dame versions, PDX get's the schlong.
     
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    And it makes Dame happy getting Draymond to play with
     
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    if the Blazers are 'forced' to trade Dame I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed in the return
     
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    i like Green and especially as a fit. Id rather have Simmons though and its not even remotely close. I also sure as fuck don't want to help Golden State by giving them a 25 year old who is the best perimeter defender in the league. Thats the worst part of that trade. People don't seem to understand the difference between Simmons in Philadelphia vs Simmons in Portland. Embiid and Lillard are as different as they come. We want Simmons and you guys will understand why when you see him next to Dame next season in the Red and Black.
     
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    Ok now THIS is something. We can then trade Nurk for whatever we need with Wiseman coming in. CJ for just Draymond is actually bad value and CJ plus picks for Draymond is even worse.
     

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