<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I don't see why Wright and them are scared to cover the three ball. Sean has already proved he dosen't care about ending up on a poster so why not let him block it or earn two from the line because all our energy gets kicked out of us when nobodies hit big shots on us.</p> </div></p> </p> Surprised you're mentioning Wright...I've seen it the most out of RJ and Kidd, actually. Mostly RJ, between the 2.</p> Seems as if Wright is more willing to trust Sean than others, though.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Good. If you know how to debate, you know that what you used is the straw man fallacy. You made up a position that you claimed I took, and then refuted that position. It's a wonderful trick, but then that person comes back and says, "show me where I took that position", and you have to evade the question entirely.</p> In fact, when I first replied to you, I thought it was pretty clear I wasn't discussing your position on Collins, or even you. I made up a hypothetical you. This wasn't even a Collins thread, this was a Frank thread, and I threw in the Collins bit to allude to inflexibility of viewpoint that I've seen elsewhere on the board. I'm not even thinking of you when I say this.</p> Now, as to your argument algebra, to dispute the facts underlying the opinion does not mean I'm saying the opinion is wrong, because, as you yourself have stated, opinions are statements of belief and can't be proven wrong. I'm not even saying you should change your opinion. For the third time, I'm saying you should be capable of doing so. There are plenty of people here who aren't. It's annoying. It makes debating with them pointless.</p> Let me give you a hypothetical. Say there's a Nets fan who has an issue with Carter's lack of defense and poor shot selection. I know, preposterous, right? But just imagine it. Say, then, Carter starts the season by playing aggressive defense, and being more of a playmaker and getting others involved on offense. The typical Frank-and/or-Collins-bashing-type response would be to either find some other fault with him, to claim it will be short lived, or, more likely, to say Carter sucks! and be done with the discussion. It makes reading these pages a little less fun and a little more tedious.</p> Lastly, as for Collins, I really enjoy watching good defense and intelligent basketball. It's why K-Mart was my favorite player. I'd rather see a stop than a dunk any day of the week (ok, unless it's an amazing dunk or a Kidd alley-oop). So clearly, we're relying on a different set of interpretable facts upon which to base our opinions. Also, your opinion that blocks are necessary for a defense-first player is totally wrong.</p> </div></p> </p> Well as much I cant agree with your position in all things Nets... I can agree with this. Good Post....</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Downunderwonder)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Good. If you know how to debate, you know that what you used is the straw man fallacy. You made up a position that you claimed I took, and then refuted that position. It's a wonderful trick, but then that person comes back and says, "show me where I took that position", and you have to evade the question entirely.</p> In fact, when I first replied to you, I thought it was pretty clear I wasn't discussing your position on Collins, or even you. I made up a hypothetical you. This wasn't even a Collins thread, this was a Frank thread, and I threw in the Collins bit to allude to inflexibility of viewpoint that I've seen elsewhere on the board. I'm not even thinking of you when I say this.</p> Now, as to your argument algebra, to dispute the facts underlying the opinion does not mean I'm saying the opinion is wrong, because, as you yourself have stated, opinions are statements of belief and can't be proven wrong. I'm not even saying you should change your opinion. For the third time, I'm saying you should be capable of doing so. There are plenty of people here who aren't. It's annoying. It makes debating with them pointless.</p> Let me give you a hypothetical. Say there's a Nets fan who has an issue with Carter's lack of defense and poor shot selection. I know, preposterous, right? But just imagine it. Say, then, Carter starts the season by playing aggressive defense, and being more of a playmaker and getting others involved on offense. The typical Frank-and/or-Collins-bashing-type response would be to either find some other fault with him, to claim it will be short lived, or, more likely, to say Carter sucks! and be done with the discussion. It makes reading these pages a little less fun and a little more tedious.</p> Lastly, as for Collins, I really enjoy watching good defense and intelligent basketball. It's why K-Mart was my favorite player. I'd rather see a stop than a dunk any day of the week (ok, unless it's an amazing dunk or a Kidd alley-oop). So clearly, we're relying on a different set of interpretable facts upon which to base our opinions. Also, your opinion that blocks are necessary for a defense-first player is totally wrong.</p> </div></p> </p> Well as much I cant agree with your position in all things Nets... I can agree with this. Good Post....</p> </div></p> Good to see we can come to an understanding; </p> </p>
