Simmons Bonanza

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  1. Predator

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    Completely agree with this. Seems like Morey is the one who closes off communication in the past, though.
     
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    I don't think Neil had the power to trade Dame. I think he and Morey were trying to set up a series of events hoping it became an appealing option to Jody, or that Dame became upset enough that he asked out.

    That could have gotten Neil another 5 years to rebuild the team.
     
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    I don’t have the highest regard for Jody, but I’m pretty sure between her and the Vulcans, if Dame asked out the first thing following that would be Olshey getting fired.

    Pretty much the only way for that to be appealing would be for them to say, “Yup, Olshey sucked at his job so now we either have to trade Dame for assets or wait for him to demand a trade because Olshey sucked so much.”

    Either way it would immediately place the blame square on Olshey.

    No way Olshey would’ve survived.
     
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    How do you know he wasn't the first Q?
     
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    Do you consider Bradley Beal a top 25 player? Would Morey consider him top 25? I think he's kind of around CJ's level, but I think the broader perception is that he's significantly better.

    That might be one guy around the level that would get Morey to take notice. Personally, I think Morey's going to have to accept a lot less than he's been looking for for Simmons.
     
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    If morey can get Beal hes absolutely doing that
     
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    Well he ain’t coming here so he’ll be someone else’s problem.
     
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    jesus hes unvaccinated too?

    ya no thanks
     
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    that’s all it took for you to bail? LOL I should’ve thought of that earlier
     
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    Straw that finally broke the camel's back. Still would be happy with him buy not gonna be disappointed if he goes elsewhere. Dude is such a hassle and we have enough drama as is
     
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    Plenty of room on that "don't want Simmons here" train! I'm your conductor, engineer reach around.
     
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    What are the odds Morey just used Woj to get teams to up their offers and there really isn’t any momentum towards a deal?
     
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    How horrible defensively is Tobias
    I’m almost leaning towards that being a better fit than Simmons

    Dame Norm Tobias Nance Nurk
     
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    Now that I typed it out.. not sure I like that lineup. Fuck. Hmm.
     
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    Tobias is worse than CJ and has a slightly worse contract. The only appeal on paper with replacing him for CJ is height. But his lack of denfense makes it a waste.
     
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    His defense isn't good. I believe basically CJ level, but probably coming from a position where you'd like more. He's also not a SF. Has played exclusively at the 4 for the past 5 or so years
     
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    Yeah that was actually the big reason I didn’t like the lineup. I like him more at the 4 but Dame Norm Nas Harris Nurk keeps with the undersized theme.
    Anyway, I’ve been convinced. No Harris

    being terrible defensively at SF/PF really isn’t an option imo lol
     
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    Tobias Harris is a little better player than CJ, and probably a better fit. But, he makes 5M/year more than CJ does and that leaves Portland in the same boat: Dame without an all-star talent to run with and 5 million less in flexibility.
     
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