I think at 22, Simons is better than Siakam was at 22. For a guy who is being paid almost another 70 million dollars, and is 28 and realistically won't get significantly better, and is overpaid, yes I consider Simons a better fit for the team than Siakam.
A poor defensive, ball dominating, scoring guard is a better fit next to Dame than a long, athletic, All Star wing? Interesting... Simons is good, no doubt about that. Dame, Hart, Nas, Siakam, Nurk seems like the best starting lineup we've had in a LONG time. And we could pick best player available with our pick. And I believe we'd still have the TPE. And at 22, Siakam was a 2 way player averaging 22.9pts, 7.3reb per game, with a defensive rating of 104.3.
Siakim didn't even begin playing basketball til 17 years old. still room for improvement IMHO, especially with Dame's gravity on the offensive side of the ball, and Nurk anchoring the defense.
Um, where are you getting those #'s for a 22 year old Siakim? At 22, his rookie year, he averaged 4.2 ppg, and averaged 15 minutes. He didn't averaged over 15 points until his 3rd year (24 years old). You're going off of his averages as a 25 year old, after 2 years of college, and 3 years of NBA. Siakim is 28 years old, Simons is 22. That's a 6 year age difference. If the Raptors had seen Siakim after he turned 22, looked at his stats, they'd probably jump at the chance at trading him for someone who is 22 and had the season like Simons did last year.
The guy who created this rumor is just throwing shit at the wall and seeing it stick. It's pointless to debate this, since it'll never happen.
Shoot, you're right. For some reason I had it in my head that he was 25 right now and just looked up stats from 3 years ago. Regardless, I do like that starting lineup.
An undersized SG with a D-RAPTOR of 231/250, pretty much the opposite of the Raptors current roster makeup. Oh but don't worry a rapidly declining Eric Bledsoe and a pick that will likely be between 27-30 makes up for losing Siakam, who is about to make his second All-NBA team. If you're looking to pair Scottie Barnes with someone close to his age you already have Gary Trent Jr. on that roster as well. They are like 6-months apart, him and Simons. Get outta here you bums. Develop your own PF.
Thing is, this trade rumor was made up by a guy who just throws players into a trade machine and implies it's a rumor. And I agree about Bledsoe, his value is that he's an expiring contract (basically) and most likely the team will be eating the guaranteed portion of it as they waive him
Are we talking about a "sign and trade? This seems unlikely. Would he fit with both Van Vleet and Trent? Simons (who is from Florida) would have to sign off on moving to Toronto. Much like Portland, Toronto is not for everyone. I would like to know however what other options we have to get Siakam. He makes 33 million until July. So Bledsoe, plus our lottery pick, plus what?
Very unlikely to happen no matter what. This was just a fan bois "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" rumor. Read more of the trade suggestions from the link. They're all garbage and not based in reality.
If we sign our pick, we can trade him after 30 days. So assuming we stay at 6, 6, Bledsoe and Didi works financially to get to Siakim.
Thanks, but I am still confused. Doesn't Bledsoe and Didi add up to 21 million? I thought the 6th pick was only slotted for another 5 million? That seems to be about 9 million short of Siakam's 35 million. Or is the pick worth more? Also wouldn't Toronto benefit more if the trade was on draft day? In case they don't want to pick up Bledsoe's whole contract for next year? Is there a scenario for that to work or do we have to wait until #6 is signed? I wonder if Toronto would rather have Gobert since they are lacking a center?
This years 6th pick, Josh giddey, is making about 5.9. So I used his salary. Added to Bledsoe's 19.3, and Didi's 1.9. Gets us a little over 27 million. We can take back up to 125% in a trade, which siakim would fit under. In order to move Bledsoe for him, his whole contract would have to be guaranteed. So they can not cut him for $$ relief in any scenario.
