<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Imagine any other contestant stopping right before he stuffs it and just throws the ball downward; it's stupid looking.</div> You mean imagine someone stopping in midair to forcefully throw the ball downward through the rim? Who the hell can do that?
I've backed my Position up a little, watching again, Dwight did very interesting dunks, but moon shouldn't come away upset, he was 1 point away from finals and green surprised me, he did well Overall better then i initially thought
that other dunk by dwight where he tapped it off the backboard ad switches hands went so unnoticed, so creative
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 17 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that other dunk by dwight where he tapped it off the backboard ad switches hands went so unnoticed, so creative</div> That's what sealed it for me. Headline on Yahoo said that the Superman dunk won it for him. No way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 17 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Imagine any other contestant stopping right before he stuffs it and just throws the ball downward; it's stupid looking.</div> You mean imagine someone stopping in midair to forcefully throw the ball downward through the rim? Who the hell can do that? </div> I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Dwight couldn't reach the rim and had to throw it. He couldn't dunk it if he wanted to. I can also imagine people throwing a basketball downwards.
You can argue that it wasn't technically a dunk, but it certainly wasn't a layup. There was no arc in it at all. He did slam it down, just didn't punctuate it with grabbing the rim. I still thought it was impressive.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 17 2008, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can argue that it wasn't technically a dunk, but it certainly wasn't a layup. There was no arc in it at all. He did slam it down, just didn't punctuate it with grabbing the rim. I still thought it was impressive.</div> Actually you can Chutney, there is no mention of a a ball needing an arc to be considered a lay-up. Just like a Dunk can be "thrown downwards". I think if you had the NBA define what a dunk should be, that throw would not make the cut in a contest for Dunking.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 17 2008, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can argue that it wasn't technically a dunk, but it certainly wasn't a layup. There was no arc in it at all. He did slam it down, just didn't punctuate it with grabbing the rim. I still thought it was impressive.</div> Actually you can Chutney, there is no mention of a a ball needing an arc to be considered a lay-up. Just like a Dunk can be "thrown downwards". I think if you had the NBA define what a dunk should be, that throw would not make the cut in a contest for Dunking. </div> There's also no mention of needing to touch the rim, for a shot to be considered a dunk.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 17 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Imagine any other contestant stopping right before he stuffs it and just throws the ball downward; it's stupid looking.</div> You mean imagine someone stopping in midair to forcefully throw the ball downward through the rim? Who the hell can do that? </div> I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Dwight couldn't reach the rim and had to throw it. He couldn't dunk it if he wanted to. I can also imagine people throwing a basketball downwards. </div> I've never seen anyone whip the ball downwards through the hoop.If it had hit the back iron it would have launched into the opposite backcourt.I don't see any reason to get all emotional nitpicking this. I thought it was fun to watch and he did two other dunks that were creative, difficult and excellent. And both on the first try, too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 17 2008, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can argue that it wasn't technically a dunk, but it certainly wasn't a layup. There was no arc in it at all. He did slam it down, just didn't punctuate it with grabbing the rim. I still thought it was impressive.</div> Actually you can Chutney, there is no mention of a a ball needing an arc to be considered a lay-up. Just like a Dunk can be "thrown downwards". I think if you had the NBA define what a dunk should be, that throw would not make the cut in a contest for Dunking. </div> I've never seen a layup that didn't have an arc. I don't know how that would work. For the record, I think that attempt is stuck in a wierd middle ground. Its not a layup or a shot, because he threw it directly downwards and into the rim. It really wasn't a dunk, since he didn't slam it in and wasn't anywhere near the rim. I wonder if it was intentional. I still thought it was damn impressive and arguably harder to do what he did. He may not have deserved a 50, but it still deserved a high score. And taking some marks off wouldn't/shouldn't have lost the competition for him, in my eyes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Feb 17 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 17 2008, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can argue that it wasn't technically a dunk, but it certainly wasn't a layup. There was no arc in it at all. He did slam it down, just didn't punctuate it with grabbing the rim. I still thought it was impressive.</div> Actually you can Chutney, there is no mention of a a ball needing an arc to be considered a lay-up. Just like a Dunk can be "thrown downwards". I think if you had the NBA define what a dunk should be, that throw would not make the cut in a contest for Dunking. </div> There's also no mention of needing to touch the rim, for a shot to be considered a dunk. </div> The fact that it's debatable was the point. It didn't look good. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I've never seen anyone whip the ball downwards through the hoop.If it had hit the back iron it would have launched into the opposite backcourt.I don't see any reason to get all emotional nitpicking this. I thought it was fun to watch and he did two other dunks that were creative, difficult and excellent. And both on the first try, too.</div> Have you been reading my posts? I never questioned his creativity or the other dunks. <div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GRLuS8cp2Os&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GRLuS8cp2Os&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div> I'm not nitpicking jack he was a good distance away from the rim. Not just a "few centimeters". Seemed like a half foot or so to be more precise. The reason people don't throw the ball downwards in a dunk contest is because that's not finishing it off right. Most one-handed dunks in the contest that I've seen, rise a nice distance above the rim. People just got caught up in the moment this time. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I've never seen a layup that didn't have an arc. I don't know how that would work. For the record, I think that attempt is stuck in a weird middle ground. Its not a layup or a shot, because he threw it directly downwards and into the rim. It really wasn't a dunk, since he didn't slam it in and wasn't anywhere near the rim. I wonder if it was intentional. I still thought it was damn impressive and arguably harder to do what he did. He may not have deserved a 50, but it still deserved a high score. And taking some marks off wouldn't/shouldn't have lost the competition for him, in my eyes.</div> There's a middle ground in the Dunk contest? It's not like he raised the rim, he just couldn't dunk it out from a certain distance. I'd definitely penalize him.
That was a dunk. Any act of throwing the ball downwards after being ABOVE the rim is a dunk. It was nasty.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was a dunk. Any act of throwing the ball downwards after being ABOVE the rim is a dunk. It was nasty.</div> Anytime you have to technically define it dunk, that's not a good sign. Look at his head, don't say he was ABOVE the rim like he was soaring. Watch the replay. Nothing special to be honest. Yeah Dwight should have won, that's not my point though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was a dunk. Any act of throwing the ball downwards after being ABOVE the rim is a dunk. It was nasty.</div> Anytime you have to technically define it dunk, that's not a good sign. Look at his head, don't say he was ABOVE the rim like he was soaring. Watch the replay. Nothing special to be honest. Yeah Dwight should have won, that's not my point though. </div> When I say above the rim, I meant the ball being above the rim. I'm not saying he was soaring, don't put words in my mouth.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was a dunk. Any act of throwing the ball downwards after being ABOVE the rim is a dunk. It was nasty.</div> Anytime you have to technically define it dunk, that's not a good sign. Look at his head, don't say he was ABOVE the rim like he was soaring. Watch the replay. Nothing special to be honest. Yeah Dwight should have won, that's not my point though. </div> When I say above the rim, I meant the ball being above the rim. I'm not saying he was soaring, don't put words in my mouth. </div> The ball being above the rim is nothing special, you implied it was.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was a dunk. Any act of throwing the ball downwards after being ABOVE the rim is a dunk. It was nasty.</div> Anytime you have to technically define it dunk, that's not a good sign. Look at his head, don't say he was ABOVE the rim like he was soaring. Watch the replay. Nothing special to be honest. Yeah Dwight should have won, that's not my point though. </div> When I say above the rim, I meant the ball being above the rim. I'm not saying he was soaring, don't put words in my mouth. </div> The ball being above the rim is nothing special, you implied it was. </div> I didn't imply it was special. I was simply telling you that if the ball is thrown downwards after being above the rim, it is a dunk. I wasn't putting it in caps to imply anything, just to emphasize that it was a legal dunk.
I can't believe people are getting their panties in a bunch over a play that may or may not have been a "dunk" as defined by who-the-hell cares. It was an insane play, Dwight won, get over it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was a dunk. Any act of throwing the ball downwards after being ABOVE the rim is a dunk. It was nasty.</div> Anytime you have to technically define it dunk, that's not a good sign. Look at his head, don't say he was ABOVE the rim like he was soaring. Watch the replay. Nothing special to be honest. Yeah Dwight should have won, that's not my point though. </div> When I say above the rim, I meant the ball being above the rim. I'm not saying he was soaring, don't put words in my mouth. </div> The ball being above the rim is nothing special, you implied it was. </div> I didn't imply it was special. I was simply telling you that if the ball is thrown downwards after being above the rim, it is a dunk. I wasn't putting it in caps to imply anything, just to emphasize that it was a legal dunk. </div> Alright that is a fair point Swish, but in your earlier post you used the term "nasty" in the non-pejorative and modern sense. People defend that dunk due to the Air they thought Dwight achieved, thus I thought you believed that aspect of his "dunk" was amazing. What else would be "nasty" about that dunk?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Feb 17 2008, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't believe people are getting their panties in a bunch over a play that may or may not have been a "dunk" as defined by who-the-hell cares. It was an insane play, Dwight won, get over it.</div> THANK YOU. That wasn't even his sickest dunk of the night, his double alleyoop was.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was a dunk. Any act of throwing the ball downwards after being ABOVE the rim is a dunk. It was nasty.</div> Anytime you have to technically define it dunk, that's not a good sign. Look at his head, don't say he was ABOVE the rim like he was soaring. Watch the replay. Nothing special to be honest. Yeah Dwight should have won, that's not my point though. </div> When I say above the rim, I meant the ball being above the rim. I'm not saying he was soaring, don't put words in my mouth. </div> The ball being above the rim is nothing special, you implied it was. </div> I didn't imply it was special. I was simply telling you that if the ball is thrown downwards after being above the rim, it is a dunk. I wasn't putting it in caps to imply anything, just to emphasize that it was a legal dunk. </div> Alright that is a fair point Swish, but in your earlier post you used the term "nasty" in the non-pejorative and modern sense. People defend that dunk due to the Air they thought Dwight achieved, thus I thought you believed that aspect of his "dunk" was amazing. What else would be "nasty" about that dunk? </div> Yeah, I was just saying it was a legal dunk. I just thought the whole thing was nasty, from the Superman outfit to where he took off from. I just didn't know he could jump from that far because last year in his first dunk it seemed like he couldn't take off from far at all. Keep in mind that I'm biased though.
