Slap in the face to our team and our coaches, not just to Dame

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  1. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Dame getting in would have meant leaving another guard out, which would have meant Klay or Harden. Klay's playing for the Warriors and they're on pace to break the win record. Harden's numbers are a bit higher than Dame's and the Rockets, while under-performing, have a better record than the Blazers. Personally, I wouldn't trade Dame for either one of those guys and I think Harden't a flopping douche, but I can see why the coaches went the way they did.
     
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    That is not entirely true. I haven't seen how the numbers played out but there are two wild card choices which can go to either a big or a guard. So Dame could have replaced someone like LMA in that scenario.
     
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    True, but then the West would have been really undersized and there wouldn't have been enough PT to go around for all of the guards. I guess Klay could have played SF, but you know that they're going to give Kobe a bunch of minutes at that spot (unless he breaks down and can't play).
     
  4. Orion Bailey

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    What would be the best thing ever is if Kobe gave his spot to Dame, since he said that Dame absolutely deserves to be in and Kobe knows his numbers are not worthy...

    Never happen though....
     
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    Or just the opposite... He was bent out of shape over last year's snub, but seems okay with it this year.
     
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    Why do we care? The all-star game is a big circle jerk anyway, and it will be especially distasteful this year with the emphasis on Kome's last year, blah blah...........let's all watch him start, suck, and dribble off to the glue factory.

    Rest Dame, win games.
     
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    I was thinking he was getting more national attention then any Blazer before him. Between his music and his commercials he is extremely visible. Once the Blazers start winning he will get more, but the need to be in a huge city/market in order to maximize one's brand is becoming less important each year. Even the Laker homers have been acknowledging that as of late. The Lakers can still sell the weather, but that is about it. Look at Westbrook and Durant, they get plenty of national attention, and they are in OKC.
     
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    Yeah. I mean Drexler got over that sh-t after a while. He played at a high level long enough and Portland was in the playoffs long enough, that he got the recognition. But I'm a Portland native and I don't appreciate that "you gotta pay extra dues" bias that our players suffer from. And I don't appreciate the small market "Prius driving soccer mom" lines that East Coast dick heads like Bill Simmons tag us with. We have never hosted an All Star game and the excuses are ringing more hollow. Portland has to pull it's own weight as a major city at some point. It has a national identity now and it has a culture. It's not just a stop on I-5 between Seattle and So Cal any more. We need to be more assertive in how people view us as a city.

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    I'm fine with Lillard not making the team. He has a great argument to make it but if you look at the other reserves I think the coaches got it right. It's a very close decision. Honestly I might rate CJ ahead of Dame through this point of the season. Dame is a poor defender. At this point were splitting hairs though; Dame has been tremendous and this is a great season for a PG he is putting together.

    Boogie has put up monster numbers and elevated a terrible franchise to the same playoff picture as us.

    LaMarcus has been part of a historic defense. It's more difficult to be a top member of the second best team in the league than a 20ppg scorer on a losing team.

    Anthony Davis is having a disappointing season relative to his possible MVP discussion but he's such a matchup problem for opposition. Without him that team might've lost as much as the 6ers.

    Harden is probably the worst player to make it but again when your in the MVP discussion and do lead your team to a winning record, even if it's far short of expectations, I understand the pick.

    Really Dame is just stuck trying to make it in a loaded Western conference. 3 Warriors make the team deservedly so as possibly the best team of all time. Two Spurs make it being the best defensive team of all time. Kobe gets voted in as some bizarre send off tour I've never witnessed and don't understand. Durant and Westbrook are both locks being MVP teammates on a squad that other years could be the top team in the league.

    That leaves 4 spots for all the teams ranked 4-14 in the conference. Switch the Spurs and Warriors with the Nets and 6ers then Dame makes it no question.
     
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    I like his reaction... he improved all facets of his game including defense since last year (while he's double and triple teamed now). He did what he could, been there done that... he's more focused on team play.
     
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    Kevin Love's numbers and impact on the Cavs (best team in his conference) are nearly identical to those of Aldridge on the Spurs.

    John Wall's numbers are inferior to Dame's, and his team is underachieving.

    Yet somehow, Aldridge is selected over Lillard, while Wall gets in over Love.

    Help me understand the argument that applies to one pairing, but not to the other.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I was with you right up to the "win games" bit. :wink:
     
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    Love is at best an average defender. Coaches know the Cavs are sometimes better with Love on the bench and LeBron at PF. Love can't play against small ball teams. Wall is a better defender than Lillard.

    Aldridge has been been part of a team achieving far more than the Cavs. The Blazers have a better record with Lillard missing games than playing.

    There are great arguments for Dame making it; but great arguments for the players who did make it too. Close decision.
     
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    Kobe...I can't find an argument for him making this team other than nostalgia..no way Kobe deserves a spot over Dame but it's win win...Dame has a bum foot..the rest is more important than the meaningless allstar fiasco
     
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    There really is only one reason to care, but its absolutely valid. Recognition at the end of ones career. All Star appearances help stack up for HOF votes and so forth.
    But yes, the event itself is a complete joke and its not even a funny one.
     
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    I've read comments on stories about the snub and (mainly Spurs fans) are saying the coaches don't like him and LaMarcus was picked because he's more likeable. They also mention maturity issues. The only time I can remember Damian getting any negative press was from the All Star comments last year and then he just got over it. I've never gotten the impression that other coaches didn't like him or that he lacks maturity in any way. It's very odd to me... what are these people talking about?!? LaMarcus has all the, you know, personality, you know, of a pan of San Antonio Enchiladas (and by the looks of him he ate the whole pan in one sitting).
     
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    So we're going only on reputation rather than actual performance? Love's defensive metrics are actually superior to Aldridge's this year. The Spurs are often better with West on the floor and Aldridge on the bench. Aldridge is arguably the third-most-effective PF on his own team. Aldridge can't play against small ball teams either; in fact, Love is better as a small ball center due to his ability to spread the floor. And comparing their teams' success is ridiculous if their respective coaches' competence isn't also considered.

    All arguments for Aldridge are subjective or team-based. There are no objective, individual metrics that justify Aldridge's selection.
     
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    One must recognize the source of the complaints....

    Dame is more mature than most players in their 30's.

    LMA is not like able, because he is too closet. You cant hide your personal life and be a likable guy. Spurs fans are just delusional in trying to validify LMA in the game.
     
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    But why would they have anything against Dame?!? He was nothing but gracious to LaMarcus and had to cater to that head case's ego the whole time (along with the rest of the franchise) .

    In the end, the Spurs have their max player and we have ours - we got the one who's actually worth it.
     
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    Easy answer? He still wears a Blazers Jersey and they think they gone one over on us this summer by signing LMA.
    What Dame did with LMA or for LMA while he was here is inconsequential.

    The fact that he is a Blazer is all anyone(non blazer fan) needs to start bashing...
     

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