You need an inside scoring threat from either your C or your PF. If Lopez can develop into that, it would be a big plus.
I'm in no disagreement about Lopez but adding Gerald would give us an inside threat while Brook and Yi figure that aspect out and allow us to capatilize on their shiooting ability. Wallace is very good around the rim be it post up or driving at his defender.
But which piece do we trade for an expiring deal (and May's contract can't be for that much)? Sean and Boone are being discussed. We're going to need a bigman to fill those vacancies long term if one of them goes (especially Boone). If it's Sean that goes, then ok Wallace plays the 4 (if it's Morrison, then maybe we stick with Stromile past this season at a lower cost?) If Boone goes, we're depending on Sean May to play backup minutes (ugh) and then no longer have a capable backup center.
Welcome to S2! And since you are a long time reader then you should already know to watch out for Petey!
Starting lineup: Harris (third primary scorer, playmaker, needs to be a better perimeter defender) Carter (First and second primary scorer, playmaker, steps up to defend best SG/SF opponent even though not as good of a defender that is why you have Defensive PF) SF (Good Shooter, better then average defender,) PF (strong defender, weak side defender, shot blocker, rebounder, not an offensive asset) Lopez (the first or second primary scorer, low post threat, can rebound, decent shot blocker and defend adequately) Sad but the best player we have for SF is Anderson but he cant defend 3. If he can develop that, he slides into SF.Right now Hayes fits. Simmons too inconsistant but can be that person too. Simmons has to outside shooting that would work, but his Defense sucks. Doubt Yi can move to SF because he might not be able to defend the SF. Perfect person for PF would be Williams but clearly not good enough right now. Fans and management might not have enough patience.
It's about a package and I only mentioned May if they want to make the salaries work. I'm thinking it's Williams that goes. No way they give away both him and Boone. And May makes $2.66mm. If they take May he'll be the 3rd string center.
I think we almost have that "ideal" lineup so far... with Harris and VC set, the SF is definitely up in the air, and i think we are in agreement that it should be be spot up shooter but primarily a quick defender on ball and off... at PF i feel YI will be the best option, he'll get his swagger with the team as he'll get more comfortable and knowing his role etc... but at C, don't you think we almost have that in Brook? Lopez believe it or not was the best C or shall i say top rated C in the draft, he plays very good D esp. in the help D. he needs to work on his post game a little more which brings me to this little uneasy feel when watching them play(too much VC n Harris play, i know they are the best but once they start ball hogging and esp. when their shots arent falling, they take away from the other 3 shots and put us in a hole where it goes right back to the VC and Harris show but thats another thread) i think Brook should have some plays set up for him and bring YI closer to the paint, no use being 7ft if your behind the 3... if not Charlotte what about Utah? CJ Miles? or AK-47? i'm more looking for that Bruce Bowen type player/role minus the dirty play.
thanks for the welcome! and judging by you avatar i see you're another Geass fan! i havent seen the 2nd season yet, was it good? Petey seems cool.
You have gained my respect(PM me if you want to discuss Geass). You have lost my respect. As for the possibility of getting Wallace-I'm all for getting him as long as we can be in the Bron sweepstakes.
No comments on this trade? Just read a story on how bad OKC is and the fans were booing them last night. They need to do something before they start losing their brand new fan base (starting with a uniform re-design would really help).
Our ideal SF, in addition to the stuff mentioned, should also be an athlete who thrives on the break. When Devin is pushing the ball 1 on 2, 1 on 3, 1 on 4, 1 on 100, it'd be nice if someone besides a big (Sean, Boone, Yi) consistently ran with him. As we all know, Vince ain't ever running, but that's not the end of the world, because he serves other purposes offensively. Simmons serves none, and he doesn't run/isn't built for running. Wallace on the other hand... that could be nice. Devin is at his best when he is relentlessly pushing the ball and attacking, and it's no coincidence that this is also when we've been the best as a team this season. Having someone along side him besides the aforementioned bigs would be sweet. It's the reason Frank is yelling "LET'S GO!!!!" like a nut job all game. We win when we "go." Our SF should be someone who is built for "going" and actually "goes" without having to have it screamed at him every possession.
Picking up Wallace for Sean, Stro and Hassell would be ridiculous. It would leave the Nets a little thin up front, but they'd have an open roster spot to pick up a free agent big man. If given the choise, though, I'd rather get rid of Simmons.
Interesting!! I say we trade for Richard Jefferson. Maybe we can get him for Simmons and Hassel. Richard Jefferson for Simmons and Yi.
Simmons is going to be tough to move. We'd probably have to throw in a pick too (the Marcus pick from GS could work). The key to the whole thing is the 3 way. Charlotte gets Watson and Wilcox... two big needs for them. Plus they drop the long term deals of Wallace and Carroll. Seattle gets a young PG with potential that could probably use the change of scenery in Felton, young athletic big in Swat, and a desperately needed shooter in Carroll... all while picking up $3.9mm in salary cap space next season to help the rebuild move faster in their new home. For us we get a starting SF in Wallace and a good back-up in Wilkins that can defend the perimeter and run the break. Here are the DX scouting reports for both: Gerald Wallace Damien Wilkins They both bring exactly what the Nets need... speed, athleticism and most of all perimeter defense! And you know all these players can be had because either their names have been openly out there in trade talks or they are not getting the playing time. The only iffy thing is if Seattle would want to do Watson for Felton, but they need to do something. Edit... regarding Wallace, his ability to get by his man and get to the rim needs to be considered when thinking about the dribble drive offense. He could be better in this system than what we've seen. And he's only 26.
Think about it this way: Dave D says the Bobcats are looking for a "player of consequence". How many of those do the Nets have? How many of them played at North Carolina? One. Hoopsworld notes, as does this week's Sports Illustrated, that attendance in Charlotte is rapidly declining. How much is Wallace owed over how many years? Wallace is owed $47.5 million over five. The former UNC star is owed $53.4 over four. How old is Wallace? 26. How old is the former UNC star? 32 in January. Read between the lines.
I don't see the Nets trading Carter. They are having as many issues selling tickets as the Bobs and I think Vince's days of being a big draw at the box office are behind him. With all the young guys the Nets have they need Carter's steady veteran leadership (and ball handling). I don't see the Bobs getting a player of consequence for Wallace because he's a little overpaid. He should've had a contract similar to Nocioni's. They should be happy to cut payroll and have the opportunity to play the market next summer and maybe make a play for Marion or Boozer. As it stands they will only have about $9MM to play with and if they pick up some expirings for Wallace they could have upwards of $18MM to work with. I think this deal is going to be similar to the Grizzlies unloading of Gasol. Plus, Charlotte cut a player expecting to take back an extra player in a trade. Since Vince makes $14mm and Wallace makes $8mm the Nets would be the one cutting players.
If we trade Carter, we bring Simmons off the bench as a shooting specialist (something he's more equipped to do). After that I see two scenarios: 1) Make roster moves, and pick up a 3rd PG, but one that's good enough to play 2nd string; start Dooling. Watching him and Devin play together was impressive. Bye bye Ager? 2) Jarvis Hayes starts, and Ager gets more playing time until CDR comes back. CDR shakes off the rust and starts at the 2 guard. We bring Jarvis and Simmons off the bench (I think this is the more probably scenario).
