So here is a revamped "Off-season" moves by Magnifier

Unless we can sign him for the minimum after everything is important has been taken care of, and then it's risky

 

The guy played less than Oden... that's quite an achievement. After this season, he will have "played" in the NBA for three years.

Elliot Williams: Three years - 24 total games played

Greg Oden: Three years - 82 total games played

 

I don't know who you are trying to convince here. I have said this terrible reality many times already. i was just thinking if we were able to retain him for min, then what's the real risk? This could happen after we've done all our off-season moves too. There are min players that see no burn all season that make that amount.

 

Who said I'm trying to convince anyone? I'm just posting facts. The guy has been a huge disappointment.

 

I've been a proponent of the Monroe trade. Granted, I haven't watched him play extensively - I don't extensively watch ANYONE who's not a Blazer. But from the little that I've seen, and looking at his numbers, he interests me far more than Gortat. Gortat would be fine, but if I had my pick I'd definitely take Monroe. He's only 22, whereas Gortat is 28! And Gortat appears older than he actually is...maybe it's the receding hairline, but I'd definitely be a bit worried about his long-term health. PHX has some sort of fountain of youth...taking Gortat away from that could spell the beginning of the end for him. Plus, I've always liked big men who can pass - Monroe's 3.3apg is a big selling point for me. His FG% is a little concerning - I don't typically like bigs with sub-50% shooting. But I'm going to chalk that up to an "off year", since his career % is over 50%.
Monroe and Millsap would be a crushing front line! We'd have a starting line-up where all 5 positions would be above-average passers! And if Lillard develops defensively we'd have pretty good defenders at all positions too. We may need to think about upgrading the coach a little quicker than planned.

 

Oh okay, i thought you believed I was advocating we must sign E Will. I was just tossing him out there if management wants one more look at him.

 

Monroe is a damn good player; but I just don't see him as a good interior defender. I think this would be a lateral move personally. I would rather have Gortat than Monroe any day of the week. Gortat protects the paint, plays very good position defense, boxes out and is a great help defender. Oh btw, he is one of the better centers that set good picks.

If there was a choice between Monroe or Gortat (being both available); I would choose Gortat every time.

 

The stats definitely don't tell his whole story. The guy is a dumb bball player who goes out of his way for his own stats. He can only dunk, he can't shoot and his passing ability is very poor. He does effect some shots because he can block them but is very easy to fake out. A very telling tale is that after Denver gives him a pretty large contract that they only play him twenty minutes a game and George Carl has come out and called him lazy.

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He doesn't fit the Karl mold of player though. I always thought it was a big mistake after they traded for him. McGee is better suited for a slower paced team. He doesn't have to be instinctive and can gamble more. Our team is the best case scenario for him because Aldridge is actually a pretty decent one on one defender. That means he would only gamble on the guards penetrating to the basket. That's 100% fine with me. Swat the shit out of those little men!

 

I think we already have one project guard, and his name is Will Barton. Williams would just be redundant.

 

I'd choose Gortat every time as well for this team. A few of the reasons are that Monroe would take a lot to pry out or Detriots hands and it seems like Gortat could be had for a lot less. Add onto that the fact Gortat is a defensive center who rebounds well, is an okay but not great shot blocker and can clog the paint. Everything we want next to LA.

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Ideally I'd like to find a proven wing that can create his own shot.

Evans seems to be a good example of this

Maybe a couple of specialists from the three point line as well as a defensive minded center who will eat up space in the key and adjust the other teams game plan of attacking the rim

 

Okay you convinced me. Get rid of Oden 2.0!!!!

 

But is it true that Gortat wants out in Phoenix? If true, I hope Portland tries really hard getting him.

 

The key for me is if they were willing to pay to get out of his contract. I think he'd be great at 20-25 minutes a night as starting C and resident dickhead, has 2 years left, at which time Leonard shouldd, hopefully, be ready to take over. I wouldn't take him for free, though, I'd need something in the way of, say, Toronto's pick or Lamb or something on top of him.

 

That's actually an interesting idea. I would want both; but what would we have to offer though? We really don't have any pieces they would really want that could replace their starting center. Maybe "Hickson"? I know Hickson would foam at the mouth for that opportunity.

 

He has said he feels unwanted but hasn't requested a trade. Phx was looking for a potential lottery pick for him before the trade dead line.

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I'm going more if OKC just wanted to clear his salary. Makes almost 9 million next year, and they are close to the LT

 

DAMN we don't have a lottery pick to trade!

 

The math here is a bit fuzzy to me; doing the trade creates another $9.5M for us + our expected $12M is $21.5M or $22M for rounding sake. Signing Millsap for $10M would reduce our cap space to $12M. Resigning Maynor is $3-4M unless he took the QO and then its $5.8M off. Kevin Martin, Carl Landry or Jarrett Jack for the remaining $3.8 - 6M??? Scarlet-colored glasses!!!