So NOW do you understand what I'm talking about??? We are a better team this year.

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    At least we are getting some spirts of quality ball compared to nothing but shit back pre BRoy/LA !


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    I figured this season they'd struggle early and figure shit out after the allstar break so I'm good with the extended training camp. As long as they're better in March than November it's mission accomplished.
     
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    I'm really impressed with Crabbe and Ed Davis..they were better than I expected from the start of the season
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Sorry man, but I feel the complete opposite is going to happen. I felt and still feel that we have played our best ball. Catching teams off guard early in the season. Mid season trades...... =nosedive.


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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    We lost to Orlando?

    Franchise done, FAMS!
     
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    That's always been the case since Stotts became our coach. His teams start out playing better than they actually are, and as time goes by and scouting reports come in his teams do worse.
     
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    Portland isn't actually that far from the #8 Playoff spot which if this was last year or the year before, would mean much more. This year, outside of G-St and SA, the West looks more like the East in years past and a bad team around or even under .500 could make the playoffs. That is like being the #4 seed when you are actually the #6 seed....doesn't mean much other than a rapid dismissal by the Warriors in the playoffs and then a bad Draft pick.

    Bigger picture....
     
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    I tend to agree as we only have so many weapons and teams have figured us out
     
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    Instead of developing some of the younger players, every one is basically sent out there to run around and set screens for Dame/CJ as they shoot shot after shot. Once in a while someone else gets to shoot an open '3' but that's about it. Until Stotts starts throwing Plumlee/Vonleh etc a bone to try and get them some experience in actually getting and taking a good shot, this team will be way out of balance and look like Curry/Ellis from years back.

    Of course there will be growing pains and Vonleh on the block won't be as good of a shot at the time as something Dame/CJ might throw up but this is about LONG TERM development and being better down the road. You see the bigs give up the ball as soon as they get it to get it back to one of the guards and they have little confidence to shoot unless it is against the clock or off on offensive rebound right at the hoop.
     
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    before the last game Meyers was something like 1-19 from 3pt range..Aminu and Crabbe are shooting, Henderson had a couple of scoring games..in my view this is all going to take time to build chemistry.....which causes all those turnovers. Sometimes it's going to look really ugly
     
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    Yeah, Stotts is really failing in this developmental cycle. Like always he's coaching for every regular season win he can get. I really thought we'd see much more pick/roll action now that LMA isn't on the team and we have guys who can set picks AND roll, but it still rarely happens. The key to this being a successful season is to EXPAND everyones individual games, but so far everyone is just doing the same things they've always done as players.
     
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    Quite right. I respect Stotts trying to get wins but that is not what is going to help this team in the long run. Plumlee, Vonleh, Aminu, Harkless, Davis and Crabbe need to develop the weaker parts of their games even though there will obviously be some growing pains.
     
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    CJ has turned into an outstanding player under Stotts. Crabbe is developing, too. Plumlee looks pretty good, too. It takes more than one season for most guys.

    Give it time.
     
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    I have to disagree. Putting x player in a situation they can't possibly succeed in is madness.
    Just like telling a kid to go ride a bike without any previous exposure and no training wheels could turn out disastrous...
    So could putting as player in a situation they couldn't hope to succeed in.
    It may be a rebuilding year, but not everyone is equal in mental toughness. Or takes failure as a way to improve.(See poor FT shooters)
     
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    Agreed. Dame and CJ are two of my favorites on the team, but we need to set plays for other players in the offense. It'll likely result in less wins in the short-term, but, as you said, this is a long term approach.
     
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    This is rapidly turning into a depressing non-rebuild.

    CJ and Crabbe have shown progress and Plumlee looks like he may be a solid piece. The rest of the roster is comprised of journeymen who have already reached their "meh" ceiling, or guys whose ceiling is too low to worry about. "Internal improvement" isn't getting us anywhere close to where we were just 2 seasons ago.

    Patience is not always a virtue.
     
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    I think it's ridiculous that some of you don't want Stotts and the players to try to win every game they can. Winning is better than losing. Period.
     
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    Except it isn't. Other than that little part you're 100 percent correct.
     
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    This is ridiculous. We should all not want Stotts.
     
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