So NOW do you understand what I'm talking about??? We are a better team this year.

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    There's never a guarantee a team will match.

    The Bulls said all along they'd match any offer for Omer Asik.
     
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    If the money is even, then the upside of our team for the future. depends on the FA wants. Some want money. some want a long term home. Some want to win now. Some just want a place for their numbers to increases. Name the free agent and I will try to answer.
     
  3. Natebishop3

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    If you're Neil, how do you pitch Kevin Durant? DeMar DeRozan? Whiteside? Chandler Parsons?
     
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    Well for starters I wouldnt even pitch Parsons. Whiteside and Durant would be my only two real offers on that list. I would pitch Durant as already having had a core group of guys but with a PG that dominates the ball. I would pitch him a ring in the next three years along with watching his numbers reach all time highs because of how many more touches he will get. I would pitch him that we have always seen him as an MVP player, but when we passed on him in the draft, it was purely out of what the TEAM needs, not what he has to offer.

    Whiteside is a space cadet half the time. You can probably pitch him with about anything true, then beef it up some and who knows. He has bounced around and found a home with Miami, but I dont think that lasts. That team is 2 years away from the Lotto... unless they think Whiteside is a cornerstone to build around. then there is nothing we can do.

    Alot of people are high on Derozan... not me.
     
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    Whats' wrong with DeRozan?

    Look at his last five games

    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan

    He's a UFA. He can score. He's 6'7 and he's only 26 years old. His biggest knock is that he can't shoot the three.
     
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    I have to admit, I haven't watched film. Can he get to the hoop? Can he finish? Does demand doubles and can he pass well out of them? That's what will be required of his position. And the three is pretty big considering how much f a percentage it is of our offense. (Not that an offense cant change styles, but is he such a player that would be worthy of such a change?)
     
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    Pretty sure he's a slasher, and most importantly he gets to the line. The guy is averaging over 8 free throw attempts per game.
     
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    My problem with DeRozon is he has always seemed like a chucker to me. Like Crawford and Nick Young. I am sure his percentages are fine it is the shots that make you go WTF occasionally.
     
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    I agree that city size doesn't have much to do with it, but quality of team DOES. Until we're a quality team we will NOT sign a marquee free agent. Monroe is not a marquee free agent, and MIL was in just as good a spot as we were, and arguably better. Only when we make the WCF will we be a destination.
     
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    I'd love Durant but we'd be a very interesting team adding Derozan and Whiteside in the offseason thru FA and giving nothing up, plus a likely Top 5 pick, does Derozan play mostly SG or SF or does he do both?
     
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    What constitutes a marquee free agent in your book? Just curious cus Monroe is having a big year. Seems like a good signing even at the price. 19th in PER for the whole NBA.

    You are basing marquee more off name recognition then impact on the game maybe?
     
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    His percentages aren't that great.

    62% from 0-3ft
    47% from 3-10ft
    43% from 10-16ft
    35% from 16ft-3pt
    22% from 3pt

    And he has a fairly even distribution of attempts from everywhere in 2pt land.

    .541 TS%

    Lot like Dame, but no 3pt production. Not even a threat to help with spacing. The whole geometry of our attack would change if he were to join our team. Would Terry be able to cope with that?
     
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    He isn't a true max guy. Problem is a lot of players are going to get max who shouldn't. I would pass on him for max but at some point you have to bite the bullet and go for someone.
     
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    I think the biggest confusion is individuals definition of Marquee or MVP, or game changer.

    Marquee game changing players in the league that are not of MVP caliber? Not sure of any. SO who are the MVP's of the league?

    Durant, LBJ, Rose.. These are guys of the past though.
    Right now, I think our best bet is to go with potential. I don't know if anyone knows who the next ten MVPs are. Wall? Davis? Drummond?

    I think those are guys who would come here with the right surroundings and promise of 4-6 years of being a solid winning and contending team.

    I dont think any of us know who the next marquee players of the next decade will be. Seems there are a bunch of all stars already, and I think some of those are gettable, again, with the right surroundings and situation. One of these all stars will be an MVP though...
     
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    I don't have a hard definition for a marquee free agent, it's one of those things where you know it when you see it. At worst it's a #2 option on a winning team (Pippen, Wade, Kobe), but even that doesn't guarantee marquee status. Merely being the best free agent in one particular summer does not constitute being a marquee free agent. Last summer LMA was the only one who could possibly be considered a marquee free agent, and then only in name not in deeds.
    Whoever they are, they aren't gonna sign here until we've at least made it to the WCF.
     
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    I can roll with that. I would put Mark Gasol with LMA though. He just had no publicity, because he basically said he was resigning with Memphis and didnt want to leave his home town, so there wasn't any fuss. Mark was just as big though.
     
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    To your point, I totally forgot he was a FA! And Marc > LMA.
     
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