OT So, That's Your Generation

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Chris Craig, May 17, 2022.

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What generation do you come from?

  1. Boomer

    9 vote(s)
    30.0%
  2. Gen X

    7 vote(s)
    23.3%
  3. Millennial

    12 vote(s)
    40.0%
  4. Gen Z

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Traditionalists

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Gen K9

    1 vote(s)
    3.3%
  7. Alien

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  8. Gen Pirate

    1 vote(s)
    3.3%
  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I didn't disagree with any of that. Just stating facts.
     
  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    That's post war
     
  3. Fairly-Hard

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    I don’t care what your site says. Boomers started being born during WW2. The country had a baby boom from the war and it started when the draft started calling young men to war and they got their girlfriends and wives pregnant.
    That is fact.
     
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    Those are boomers. I don’t care what post war says. Look at the birth rates. Those are baby boomers.
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    Pre war and post war are very new categories. they were never even considered 40 years ago.
    They were called boomers.
    It’s crazy because what war? WW1, WW2, Korean, or Vietnam? Which war?
     
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    The boomer generation has a clearly defined and widely accepted definition, with dates to go with it. No, they aren’t called boomers because bombs go boom, that’s laughably stupid.
    They are called baby boomers because there was a boom in the population of babies AFTER WW2, not during.

    Just take the L dude, you’re wrong.
     
  7. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Baby Boomers were born after the war.
     
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    Every list has been changed from what we as American called boomers 40 years ago. There is a reason for it. Yes i understand if you look at any link right now that the years for "Boomers" are 46-65.
    Lets accept that as fact.
    Now if you please lets look at what happened in the 80's (Reagan Years if you will) and has been pushed even further by the Moscow Mitch "Entitlement" argument.
    First question. Why are boomer dates 46-65 - 20 years and Traditionalists or Silent gen everything before that? Then Gen X 65-76 or 11 years? Then they bump Gen Y 77-95 back to only 17-18 years. Then Gen Z back to 20 years.
    These timelines have been changed. They have been changed because politicians didn't want to take benefits from a generation born during war. It was a bad look. So they bumped the numbers and picked 1946 to change the SS benefits and Medicare benefits to save money. Matter of fact the Gen Xers have all changed three times in the last 7 years. Watch what happens next as gen Y starts to get closer to retirement?
    These numbers have changed multiple times over the decades and will move again. You can be assured of it.

    No the original statement did not call boomers "boomers" because Bombs go boom. That is just the Idiot trying to read again. Boomers are and have always been called Boomers because of the Baby Boom due to the War.
    That is Fact.
     
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    I do know when John Lennon was born. But it was boomers who made Beatles and Stones popular.
     
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    You obviously know how to use Google. That is pretty much the first line that comes up. As always you don't know so you ask Siri and start spewing the answer she comes up with. Maybe at some point you would actually do some honest research into something so you actually know what you are talking about.
    If you talked to anyone in the 60's,70's or 80's they would have told you baby boomers were baby's born during and after WW2. Today in 2022 you google an answer and it is much different.
    I have explained why the changes were made in another post. You are very welcome to expand on that.
    It's true. As a matter of fact this was a huge debate during president Reagan's presidency. It fostered some of the biggest debates of the time. In the 80's pretty much every middle aged adult was worried about losing their Social Security when they retired. It spawned the age of the small investor. People with very middle class incomes started finding way to invest for their retirement.
    In your lifetime these numbers will change again.. Probably not the "Boomer" timeline as those people are starting to pass. But you can be assured Gen X and Gen Y will be changing.
    You can also be assured retirement age will continue to be looked at as a way to make changes.
     
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    But Gen X ended in 1980.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/797321/us-population-by-generation/

    Do you by chance have a source on your claims? I'm not trying to argue, rather just interested in the discussion.

    I was always taught in school that baby boomers were born after the war, because that's when the explosion of population started. When the men came home from the war and a period of increasing birth rates was started.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...e-were-born-the-year-you-were-born/111928356/

    1933 Births: 2,081,232
    1934 Births: 2,167,636
    1935 Births: 2,155,105
    1936 Births: 2,144,790
    1937 Births: 2,203,337
    1938 Births: 2,286,962
    1939 Births: 2,265,588
    1940 Births: 2,360,399
    1941 Births: 2,513,427
    1942 Births: 2,808,996
    1943 Births: 2,934,860
    1944 Births: 2,794,800
    1945 Births: 2,735,456
    1946 Births: 3,288,672
    1947 Births: 3,699,940

    Overall, birth rates were fairly steady during and before the war. Birth rates dropped from 1943-45. There wasn't the dramatic explosion like you saw after the war.

    There is a very clear explosion in birth rate starting in 1946.

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    Good conversation for sure. That graph even has those indicators.
    My real position here is my life. My parents and pretty much all my friends parents growing up were born just before or during the war. Grandpa fought in the war. There was never “pre war” “war time” precursors on their generation. they were and always called themselves Boomers.
    You can even see the way it was manipulated with Gen X. Our government didn’t want a second round of Boomers babies. That’s why Gen X is at 11 years.
    There is little on the internet to back this up. We didn’t go to the computer and type things in in 1980 when all this was being looked at and changed.
    I can assure you someone born in 1940-44 call’s themselves a Boomer. Not a War baby.
     
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    And I can assure you there were plenty of people who were in their early 20's in the mid 80's who called themselves Gen-Xers, though they were in fact Baby-Boomers. People's anecdotal misperceptions don't change reality.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    BTW--being born near the end of '79, I reject both the "Gen X" and "millennial" generation label. I identify as a member of the "Xennial" micro-generation (born between 77-83)--those who are young enough to have had computers around for our adolescence, but also old enough to have grown up in and be able to recall and relate to a mostly analog world.
     
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    I would be in this category as well based on age. I just follow the official label since there seems to be an accepted consensus.
     
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    Not necessarily anecdotal misconception.
    Here is a link.
    Notice the statements at the bottom.
    *We occasionally break up Boomers into two different cohorts because the span is so large, and the oldest of the generation have different sensibilities than the younger. In the U.S., Boomers II are just young enough to have missed being drafted into war.

    Thinking we’ve got it all wrong? Many people are confused by the labels demographers assign to the generations, and some of them email us to tell us we’ve made a mistake. We haven’t.

    In short, the generation names are based on when members of that generation become adults (18-21).

    So on this link they don't even go by birth. A generation is defined by when you become an adult.

    https://www.beresfordresearch.com/age-range-by-generation/
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It's apparently official enough to have made the Oxford English dictionary, so that's good enough for me.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xennials
     
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    So by that link anyone born in 1940 would be 18-21 in 1958-61. Boomer.
     
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    Even in your link, Boomers aren't born until 1946. And this is defined by the US Census Bureau (also per your link). Anyone born in the early 40's calling themselves a Boomer is disagreeing with the US government.
     
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    Again read the statement at the bottom.
    Generation does not start until you are considered adult. Not Birth.
     

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