So this is Nic Batum

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  1. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

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    Nic is a role player and a very fine and talented one at that. Nic let it be known right at the start of season that the teams success doesn't rely on him, it relies on the team itself. And whatever he can do to help it's cause he will do. Don't ever expect him to be a franchise changing kind of player. He is not made up that way. The team can win and win big with him serving the same role he has served the entire season. Don't expect him to carry the team and don't expect him to become dominant force on the offensive end. It's not in his nature.
     
  2. HailBlazers

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    Not many, reasonable gets anyway.

    Watching Iguodola right now he's having the same aggressiveness issues as Batum. Steve Kerr commenting on how he needs to attack more.
     
  3. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    The grass isn't always greener on the other side even if it may start out that way. Green can turn to shit and fast.
     
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    not really. I love the current Blazer squad and Lillard is a big part of it, but fact of the matter is I (& probably a good % of Blazer fans) root for the laundry over specific players. There isn't a Blazer ever that I wouldn't have been willing to trade for a clear upgrade. MJ for Clyde is on the table? Done deal. Lillard is a talented young player and seems to be a solid teammate as well. No one is advocating dumping him.

    Is he worth a max deal? Nope. Goran Dragic just signed a 3 year deal at 7.5M. Kyle Lowry makes less then that. Recent studs who were paid include Durant making 17M per, Westbrook 14M, John Wall 14M, Ty Lawson 11M, Steph Curry 10M, Mike Conley 8.2M. PG is a really competitive position, 10-12M per seems about right.

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  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    LeBron
    Durant
    George

    Maybe Melo.
     
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    Man, difficult issue at hand.

    I think that Batum is a watered down version of tayshaun prince. With that said, I don't believe he's worth his contract; he's just not a 12 million dollar player or roughly 22% of your team salary; well not when LA takes up about 27% of your salary.
     
  7. cmeese47

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    Difference is Iggy with Bogut helped turn GS into a good defensive team. Curry and Lee cannot guard anyone yet the team is 4th in FG% allowed and tied for 8th in PPG allowed, and third in opponents adjusted FG% allowed. Batum does not make that kind of impact defensively.
     
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    Your forgetting Kwahi Leonard, Luol Deng and Chandler Parsons. I would also take the Kings version of Rudy Gay in a heart beat the other versions not so much. He is starting to show again why he got such big contract.
     
  9. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Bollocks. He's less effective because he has a broken finger. It's kinda hard to get around somebody if you can't crossover with any confidence.

    Yes, I think he needs to try harder. No, I don't think we've seen his peak as a player. Yes, I have my doubts his peak is much higher than what we've seen. No, I'm not convinced that his peak isn't much higher than what we've seen.

    Plus apples.
     
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    Makes you wonder if Nic making $11M per season would keep teams from trading for him

    I think it actually could. That's not a good contract at this point for a guy who posted a 15.7 PER last season and is currently at 15.4 this year.

    Kahn may have got the best of Olshey after all.
     
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    Yeah

    For the poster to stop at George and say "maybe Melo" is puzzling
     
  12. OneLifeToLive

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    Nic can be fantastic and impactful in his own way. You know a lot of the things said about him were said about LA just a year or two ago. There is still time for him to change. And when he does, who knows just how that goes. If he pulls a LA. We have ourselves another top 25 player. But I think the realistic assumption is that he serves in a similar role Rick Fox, Robert Horry served for their teams with their relative teams. Just a brilliant role player. The team is going to need them when they make their push.
     
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    Nic will prove his value come playoff time. He gets stops that are game changers. He defends the best players in the league night in and night out. He doesn't need to score to win games. He's young and unselfish. Yep...I'm a fan. A healthy Nic Batum is valued across the league and he's going to get better. He's an important part of a great core.
     
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    i rather have chandler parson he is way cheaper in fact he is only getting paid about 900k. i also rather have nick young who is only getting paid about 1.1 million
     
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    If you want him to be Rick Fox, fine

    Just don't pay him $11M per season and value him so high.

    Right now he is overpaid for his production.
     
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    I really think the Blazers have got to be open to dealing either or Wes Mathews and/or Nic Batum in the off season if they seriously want to get better. We absolutely need a third star on this team!
     
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    But....But.... Nic is our third star! We gotta fabricate that we have a third star!

    Signed,
    The local Blazer media.

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    Nick Young? WTF?
     
  19. cmeese47

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    Agreed
     
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    He has a bad foot too. And yet he hasn't missed a single game this year. He's a Warrior. His three point shot and black last night saved us. I'm a big Nic Batum fan.
     

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