So uh, is anyone following what's going on in St. Louis?

Perhaps you should volunteer to be a cop there for a couple days. Teach the techniques you talk. You know, walk the talk.

Yeah! That would be cool, you could teach the Nation how it is done, no weapons needed. You could get a Congressional Medal of wisdom.
Go for it!

 

There are many police agencies around the nation that have worked on improving their techniques with great success. In portland during the 99% rallies I posted here how proud I was of our police, how well the responded and how much discipline they showed.

In Madison is where one of the first violent clashes occurred between Vietnam protestors and police. After a short period where the police kept smashing heads and breaking bones for fun, a new police chief came in who completely revamped their department and worked very hard on building trust both ways, between cops and civilians. The chief retired after about 20 years and that partnership between police and citizens is still in tact. There have been many protests over the years, but the working relationship between the police and people remain, and very little negative results cone from public demonstrations there. The Ferguson police department on the other hand has a very high rate of police violence complaints and documented incidents of people in charge saying things like "go bring some color to our jails" paraphrased.

I am not against police. I am against shitty violent police. These people must remain clean and above board. There has been a couple communities where all police are required to wear a camera at all times while on duty. The result is an 80% drop in reports of violence by the cops. Just goes to show that there is a ton of room for improvement.

 

I wish we could get an accurate eye witness report. The friend says one thing. an eye witness says another, and the police yet another

Certainly doesn't sound like there was any reason to shoot him 6 times though, but we probably all need more clarification on what happened before condemning anyone

 

Police involved in a shooting and killing of another person. Just got the update on my CNN alert thing.

smh

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/us/ferguson-darren-wilson-support/index.html

 

First off, the autopsy report sure looks like Wilson was being rushed by Brown. And who knows if the other cop killing was another defense.

This is pretty embarrassing for the community and many that jumped to conclusions before the facts were out.

 

Exactly! And if you see the autopsy photos, it clearly explains how Brown did rush Wilson.

 

This shooting may very well prove to be justified, but it also shined a bright light on a community that at least believes racism and police violence is a tremendous problem in their community. If something good can come from this whole thing it will be a reworking of the relationship between the residence (especially the black ones) of Ferguson and the police.

 

I disagree. When one fires, you tend to go upward. If a person is rushing you, the shots could start low, then draw upward. Also, have you paid attention to Brown's "attorney ambulance chasers"? They seem deflated after the release of autopsy photos. Then they tried back peddling and requesting their guys do the autopsy.

Whatever the case, it clearly isn't "Hands up don't shoot" slam dunk. The media should be embarrassed for their unbiased coverage of the series of events.

PS... The shot to the top of the head would be a stone cold assassination. I doubt no cop in their right mind would do something like that and think they can get away with it. Especially in broad daylight.

 

And that is what the entire "Hands up, don't shoot" mantra was all about. He wasn't shot from the back like the protestors claimed. Whatever the case, I doubt anything will happen to Wilson. From what I've seen, he was following protocol.

Also, the video footage of Brown robbing the liquor store definitely doesn't help the ambulance chasers either. FUCK THOSE PEOPLE FOR TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK ON A TRAGEDY!

 

Well I think you have it close to right Mags. The report showing the bullet wounds looks just about right for a guy bull rushing a real nervous cop, pulling left with his shots until he gets himself under control and nails him.

Of course there is also the simply logic that the cop probably did not just decide to shoot the guy on the spur of the moment six time for no damn reason. No I would not come to that conclusion, it makes no sense.

 

That's what I get from the photos too. Either the cop was psychotic and just wanted to pour 6 shots into some kid for fun or he was scared for his life and reacted. I wouldn't be surprised if he was rushed and had to put the loser down.

 

The bullet to the top of the head was most likely the last shot -- after he dropped from getting popped in the arms, he fell closer to the ground, the next shot hit his eye, through his jaw down into his collar bone. Again, finally, the last shot hit the top of his head. Most likely the last two fired in rapid succession.

 

A fractured eye socket would do it, put an edge on the temperament. But in any case the evidence is there unless of course you do have observation impediment.