We have 16 players, but we have 0 scrubs. We have no players who would be happy staying on the inactive list. All of them need playing time, and serious playing time. Marcus will probably be traded. But why do you expect 1 for 1 deals? I expect that along with our expirers (KVH, Stro, maybe even Hassell), and some other veluable assets (Sean and/or Boone, maybe Krstic too) he will be traded for a good player (a 2010 expirer).
we should get another vet SG and add Ager, or just a developmental player for Marcus. Think we can get the Clips Jordan?
If M. Williams plays well in Utah, makes plays for the young guys, plays decent D, and show some improvement, I think he is stays. I can see M. will getting minutes play with Harris, subbing for Harris, Playing with dooling in the second unit, and playing with CDR. People are too critical of him. He isnt that BAD. Like someone said you need three pgs why go out and get someone else when you already have a cheap one. Is M. williams great? No. Can he be beter? yeah. Is being on this roster going to hurt us? Nah. As far as scrubs on the inactive list, there are many candidates for that. Remember the IL has changed. It can be changed game to game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Jul 19 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why cant we just put hassell ager and swift on the I.L</div> Max of 15 players allowed for the regular season. That includes 12 man active roster, any players with an NBA contract that are in the D League and the inactive players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 19 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Jul 19 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why cant we just put hassell ager and swift on the I.L</div> Max of 15 players allowed for the regular season. That includes 12 man active roster, any players with an NBA contract that are in the D League and the inactive players. </div> so if we dump Vah Horn and make Hassel, Ager and Swift inactive why would we need to do anymore trades?
Marcus williams has no problems!? .... LOL Someone please post the "everybody hates RJ" youtube video.!!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ Jul 18 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 18 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well, you need three PGs on the roster. I don't know why the Dooling signing necessarily dooms Marcus.</div> Dumpy come on, under Frank you really think Marcus is going to get any time behind upcoming superstar in Devin Harris, and vet Dooling... Marcus if he remains on the roster around the season opener, his going to be traded by the trade deadline. </div> I'm not expressing my personal opinion at all . . . I am just saying that the Dooling signing, by itself, would not necessarily doom Marcus. If you want my opinion, it is this: As much of anything else, the past four months have been about remaking the team into a completely different form. How often does a team have the opportunity to remake an entire roster from top to bottom? The Nets had that opportunity, and make no mistake about it: They are doing so with a top-to-bottom plan in mind. Part of that plan is to emphasize defense--from top to bottom, everyone will be able to defend and will do so consistently. Players unable to do that, or undisciplined to do it consistently, have all been let go, or will be. They have been replaced by disciplined players who can accept and play within a system, are team oriented, and put a focus on defense. The players the Nets have signed and drafted were no accident. That said, it wasn't hard to predict who would be on their way out when the off-season began. There was absolutely no way that Boki was coming back. I am still surprised that they are considering resigning Krstic, but that may well be a ruse. Swift and Marcus are both clearly not coming back, and I think it is greater than 50% that Ager won't be coming back as well (although we didn't see enough of him to really assess him, so maybe there are other views about him among the coaching staff). This off-season has been about LAWRENCE FRANK and giving him the players he wanted and needed to run the team the way he wants to. Make NO MISTAKE about it. [my daughter asked me to add that]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 19 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ Jul 18 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 18 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well, you need three PGs on the roster. I don't know why the Dooling signing necessarily dooms Marcus.</div> Dumpy come on, under Frank you really think Marcus is going to get any time behind upcoming superstar in Devin Harris, and vet Dooling... Marcus if he remains on the roster around the season opener, his going to be traded by the trade deadline. </div> I'm not expressing my personal opinion at all . . . I am just saying that the Dooling signing, by itself, would not necessarily doom Marcus. If you want my opinion, it is this: As much of anything else, the past four months have been about remaking the team into a completely different form. How often does a team have the opportunity to remake an entire roster from top to bottom? The Nets had that opportunity, and make no mistake about it: They are doing so with a top-to-bottom plan in mind. Part of that plan is to emphasize defense--from top to bottom, everyone will be able to defend and will do so consistently. Players unable to do that, or undisciplined to do it consistently, have all been let go, or will be. They have been replaced by disciplined players who can accept and play within a system, are team oriented, and put a focus on defense. The players the Nets have signed and drafted were no accident. That said, it wasn't hard to predict who would be on their way out when the off-season began. There was absolutely no way that Boki was coming back. I am still surprised that they are considering resigning Krstic, but that may well be a ruse. Swift and Marcus are both clearly not coming back, and I think it is greater than 50% that Ager won't be coming back as well (although we didn't see enough of him to really assess him, so maybe there are other views about him among the coaching staff). This off-season has been about LAWRENCE FRANK and giving him the players he wanted and needed to run the team the way he wants to. Make NO MISTAKE about it. [my daughter asked me to add that] </div> I understand what you're saying about most of the players we have signed so far, but all the players we drafted have been the number one scoring options on their team and considered average at best defenders. Najera and Dooling are very good defenders but out of all the other players we have aquired, who was brought here for defense?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 19 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This off-season has been about LAWRENCE FRANK and giving him the players he wanted and needed to run the team the way he wants to. Make NO MISTAKE about it. [my daughter asked me to add that]</div> That should definitely be in the back of everyone's mind with every signing and every review of the offseason. This season will be a definite test for Frank. They're going out and getting guys that he should favor - more defensive, hardworking, coach-friendly players. Anything less than 30 wins with this group, I think it'll be a disappointment.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Jul 19 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 19 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ Jul 18 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 18 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well, you need three PGs on the roster. I don't know why the Dooling signing necessarily dooms Marcus.</div> Dumpy come on, under Frank you really think Marcus is going to get any time behind upcoming superstar in Devin Harris, and vet Dooling... Marcus if he remains on the roster around the season opener, his going to be traded by the trade deadline. </div> I'm not expressing my personal opinion at all . . . I am just saying that the Dooling signing, by itself, would not necessarily doom Marcus. If you want my opinion, it is this: As much of anything else, the past four months have been about remaking the team into a completely different form. How often does a team have the opportunity to remake an entire roster from top to bottom? The Nets had that opportunity, and make no mistake about it: They are doing so with a top-to-bottom plan in mind. Part of that plan is to emphasize defense--from top to bottom, everyone will be able to defend and will do so consistently. Players unable to do that, or undisciplined to do it consistently, have all been let go, or will be. They have been replaced by disciplined players who can accept and play within a system, are team oriented, and put a focus on defense. The players the Nets have signed and drafted were no accident. That said, it wasn't hard to predict who would be on their way out when the off-season began. There was absolutely no way that Boki was coming back. I am still surprised that they are considering resigning Krstic, but that may well be a ruse. Swift and Marcus are both clearly not coming back, and I think it is greater than 50% that Ager won't be coming back as well (although we didn't see enough of him to really assess him, so maybe there are other views about him among the coaching staff). This off-season has been about LAWRENCE FRANK and giving him the players he wanted and needed to run the team the way he wants to. Make NO MISTAKE about it. [my daughter asked me to add that] </div> I understand what you're saying about most of the players we have signed so far, but all the players we drafted have been the number one scoring options on their team and considered average at best defenders. Najera and Dooling are very good defenders but out of all the other players we have aquired, who was brought here for defense? </div> those are good points. I could easily be overestimating those things, which is why I say there's still hope for marcus. I guess my best response is that defense is for the most part a learned skill, and there are few college players that are real standouts defensively. This year, who would qualify? Westbrook? Anyone else? Kyle Weaver had a strong rep, but had other weaknesses. The Nets didn't take anyone incapable of playing defense (allegedly), and the players they did take do bring other talents to the table other than scoring. . . . I wonder, though, if they really would have taken Gallinari if they had the chance. That would have blown this all to hell.
