Some very concerning statements by Roy

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  1. hasoos

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    Stars win games. Role players fill in the holes.
     
  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    So you're saying substitute Rudy for Blake? Or Rudy for Webster?
     
  3. hasoos

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    Rudy for Blake. Webster would still be at the 3. All perimeter players would be over 6'6" tall. The Blazers defensive scheme now is the same one as when Nate played in Seattle, and Rudy is thriving in it now. He is averaging almost 2 steals a game even in his limited minutes. He has been shooting the lights out as well. He could be that 3rd scorer we have been looking for.
     
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    It's a nice first unit, but who's going to make a shot when the subs come in?
     
  5. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    But that would mean benching Blake...

    In all seriousness though, could Rudy defend point guards? For all the flak that Blake gets, I feel that he has actually done a respectable job on defense this season.
     
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    The hell it is.

    We don't even know that much because Roy has NEVER played SG with Miller at point. Blake has always been in there with them.
     
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    Because they are both SG's.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Except for those two horrible games in pre-season. :sigh:
     
  9. hasoos

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    Nope you are wrong. Those horrible games in the pre season was the 3 guard lineup with Blake in there, and Aldridge at center. Go back and watch. The one game Miller started with Roy and no Blake, the Blazers actually busted out to a pretty big lead before the lineups changed.
     
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    The sub pattern would need to change. I would only sub in up to 3 people, and keep 2 starters in at all times. Of those 2 starters, at least one would be a high end scorer. Plus you would have Miller and or Blake to stabilize the 2nd unit. Lets face it. Portland has a lot of problems bench wise right now because of injuries. That is just something the Blazers have to live with. The whole fact that our big guns don't play near 40 minutes a game is a joke in itself. You don't see other coaches pull out Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosch, or Joe Johnson because they are nearing the 35 minute mark. Most of those guys play 40 plus minutees if needed for the win.
     
  11. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I was holding out hope that the two of them would develop some on-court chemistry, but it's never going to happen in the halfcourt system that Brandon seems best suited to playing. After watching last night's game live fifteen rows from behind the Blazers bench I also came to realize that Brandon and Andre's lack of oncourt chemistry also extends to the bench, warmups, and who knows where else.

    I was a pretty staunch supporter of Miller starting and the two of them working out their stylistic differences, but between Nate and Miller having a clash of styles and Roy and Miller also having the same clash, I think it's pretty much impossible for him to work here. He's basically a slightly better version of Sergio at this point, and he had to leave for exactly the same reasons Miller is back on the bench.
     
  12. Uther TheGardener

    Uther TheGardener Tall Timbers

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    oh great the return of pg roy? we saw how that goes....houston in the playoffs...he needs to learn that he ISNT a PG or SF.

    So ROY tanked it to get his way? hhhmmmm since he got paid he is developing some annoying tendencies
     
  13. hasoos

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    Actually what cracks me up about most of this is the way a lot of the posters treat Roy about this situation, and if you think about it, if it wasn't for Roy coming on board, this team would be a very bad team, still to this day. He is one of the only reasons this team turned around the way it did. Try and remember that sometimes.
     
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    I am amazed at the defensiveness of many posters regarding Andre Miller and his poor play. He had 7 TOs in 18 minutes the game before he fouled out. That's incredibly poor play from a veteran PG. How those numbers prove Miller should continue to be the primary ball-handler baffles me.
     
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    What the hell? Where did you get that? Roy certainly allowed Miller to run the offense. Is that him "tanking" it?

    :crazy:
     
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    I like that our best player and leader can step up and make these kind of statements. I wish more then anything that Brandon and Dre would be our starting backcourt, but they just haven't gelled like I thought they would. As long as Miller can handle coming off the bench, we will be cool. Let's see if it happens though.
     
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    Clearly this team is going to need other people who can step up and be playmakers ... unfortunately I don't think that's going to be Miller. Best case scenario now is they either slowly try to adjust the offense over the course of the season to the point where Brandon and Miller can coexist or they move Miller et al. for somebody who fits better into this "off-guard/point-guard" role that seems to fit what Nate and Brandon like to do on offense.

    Best case scenario is probably trying to trade Miller for a wing of some sort who can be trusted to handle the ball a little and create some, but doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective ... I have no idea who would fit that description out of those players who might also be available.
     
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    Seems to me we need to split into two squads, and substitute wholesale. Either one team is on the floor or the other. No mixing.

    Plodding team: Blake, Roy, Webster, Howard, Pryz.
    Running team: Miller, Rudy, Webster, LMA, Oden

    That way Roy never has to play with anyone who wants to run, and we don't waste the talents of those who can run.

    Obviously we need Batum back to make two full squads, or for Dante to step up.

    barfo
     
  19. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Webster gets to be in two units. That's UNFAIR.
     
  20. RoyToy

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    I'm sorry for the Blazers wasting your time Miller. You deserve better.
     

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