Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in contention

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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    Broussard: On am1000

    Broussard says Bulls more focused on Melo and that Melo is focused on them. Implies that Melo has talked to Derrick Rose. Says Bulls players and Thibs want Melo. Alot of contact. Bulls want to get Melo while keeping Gibson.

    Won't write off NYK because of the money but says Chicago has a great chance, and that Melo doesn't want to wait to win. Chicago tops on list.

    Broussard says doesn't know if they can get Mirotic here this year if Melo signs. Doesn't know if they can clear up as much money.

    So we can basically conclude from Broussard that Kevin Love to Chicago is not happening this summer. All in on Melo

    Source http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1327391&start=1080

    Gotta give fellow Bulls fans all of the credit.
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    Stephen A Smith still saying Miami or NY
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    Al that contact with Melo would be tampering and subject to a ridiculously hefty penalty.

    You'd think Melo would want to talk to the Bulls before deciding to opt in or out. The rules don't allow it.

    I don't see what the Bulls can offer the Knicks, aside from draft picks, that they really want. Boozer and Taj would add to already crowded PF/C spots on their depth chart. The cost of taking back expiring contracts is absurd - something like $50M in net cost to the Knicks. Dunleavy is a 3pt specialist that duplicates what they already have in J.R. Smith. Jimmy Buckets is only a modest improvement (at best) over Iman Shumpert.

    Immediate cap relief in the form of those late season D-League type signings doesn't get the Knicks anything that letting Melo walk already gets them.
     
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    What I'd like is irrelevant of course. I'm not a NBA player. We should NEVER try to project ourselves into these situations.

    At some point, players who stay in the league long enough have to either take a pay cut or retire. When you're talking about 8 figures a year guaranteed, a pay cut has certain advantages over retirement.

    As for the offers being "insulting," I have no idea where you're coming from...I'm at a loss.
     
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    Lu is the same age as Taj and Jo. It's not like he is an aging veteran looking for a BAE sized contract to hang around in the league.

    Nah, it's no insult to play your whole career with the team to have them offer you a $4.5M pay cut, take it or leave it.
     
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    Is it fair to say that you never wrote that Deng was overpaid?
     
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    By your standards, he was.

    By mine, I'd pay the LT to keep him.
     
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    Good dodge. You an office holder?
     
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    I only think he was overpaid in the sense that you couldn't pry open the Chairman's wallet with a crowbar to pay for more good players.
     
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    The Bulls let Lu, Nate, and Belinelli go because of money. Replaced by Dunleavy. Hell of a basketball decision that was.
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    I don't know, Denny. I find trade talks with NY substantially more interesting than the possibility of 'Melo signing outright with the Bulls in free agency. My problem with all the Anthony free agency signing talk is that all of the rumors are more likely Carmeli's camp trying to make Phil Jackson believe that he is willing to leave, creating leverage for him to push for a max contract from the Knicks. With the trade talk, it could just be a question of NY not wanting to offer the contract Anthony wants. Maybe Jackson doesn't want to even retain Anthony. The Bulls could theoretically offer Anthony the most in terms of winning and marketing opportunities of the teams that could offer him a max contract (via a sign and trade). Heck the Bulls may be the only team with enough assets to actually structure a trade with NY. It seems that there are real reasons why the Bulls may be a contender to land Anthony via a sign and trade when I just don't see them when you're talking a singing in free agency.

    As for the Knicks being willing to take salary back, it sounds like the Magic might be a third part in talks. Carlos Boozer on the last year of his contract wouldn't be a horrible acquisition for them, especially given the pick sweeteners the Bulls could throw in the mix. I mean, Orlando isn't going to sign any star free agents this offseason and they still have 15M to spend to get up to the league minimum.

    (Oh, there's still no way that Anthony ends up on the Bulls.)
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    If I'm NY, I let him walk and save the $50M. Tank for a good draft pick next season. I don't think a couple of 1st round picks are worth $25M each.

    As for the Magic, they're happy to watch us amnesty Boozer and then sign him for $1M.
     
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    I read somewhere that there's no way the Bulls will amnesty Boozer...they're too cheap.
     
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    The buzz is enough to discourage trading for him.
     
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    Opposing teams don't concern themselves with "buzz." The stakes are too high to rely on "buzz." Like you, they know the Bulls are too cheap to amnesty Boozer. Unfortunately, nobody wants to trade anything of value for Boozer so none of this matters.
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    Chicago Bulls Tom Thibodeau has let Carmelo Anthony know his addition could mean big things for him and the Bulls. Tom Thibodeau and several coaches have called Carmelo Anthony numerous times according his former coach. Derrick Rose has gotten involved. Tom Thibodeau using back channels to communicate with Carmelo Anthony.Maybe nobody wants Carmelo Anthony more than Tom Thibodeau. Derrick Rose has also gotten involved. Tom Thibodeau using back channels to communicate with Carmelo Anthony.

    Source: Joe Cowley
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    New York Knicks Carmelo Anthony despite publicly saying otherwise, will likely seek a maximum or near maximum offer. Chicago Bulls could be cooling off on Carmelo Anthony and now looking at Arron Afflalo.

    Though the Bulls plan to get in the Carmelo Anthony sweepstakes, plenty of speculation exists throughout the league that Anthony, despite publicly saying otherwise, will seek a maximum or near maximum offer. The Bulls can't do that without trading multiple players away for nothing on top of using the amnesty provision on Carlos Boozer.

    The Bulls also are making available the non-guaranteed contracts of Mike James, Ronnie Brewer and Lou Amundsen in all deals.

    Magic assistant general manager Matt Lloyd previously served in a basketball operations role in the Bulls' front office.

    Source: K.C.Johnson
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    This would be tampering of the highest order. Until Melo opts out, he's a Knick.

    http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/...-yorkknicks&id=51027&city=newyork&src=desktop

    NBA players aren't permitted to recruit any other player under contract to play for their team.
     
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    Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

    New York Knicks Carmelo Anthony wants to be recruited by the Bulls. He didn't like Phil Jackson demanding a paycut. Carmelo Anthony hasn't been returning Joakim Noah's recruiting calls that Noah made over past week. Derrick Rose preference is for the Bulls to workout a deal for Kevin Love as soon as possible. Derrick Rose [despite reports] hasn't called Carmelo Anthony once. Won't recruit him or Love.

    Source: Mitch Lawrence

    Read more http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...elo-answering-article-1.1838772#ixzz35IeOOjkt
     

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