Sources: Monta Ellis unhappy with the Warriors

i would want more than odom for ellis...if that's unreasonable then fuckit...he signed up for six years, so hold on to him until we can get something decent in return. i can't say that i'm too surprised about this though...

 

How did this happen? Wasn't he supposed to be the future?

 

I wouldn't trade Monta Ellis over this. Both he and Biedrins are the keys of this franchise for years to come. They're only 23 and 22 years old, so it's way too early to give up on them. They should become all-stars or near all-stars next season.

 

I think you being naive to the fact that Monta put all of this on himself. Sorry, but I disagree with your sentiment. The Warriors are not in the wrong here, they're just pursuing their rights. It's millions of dollars at stake. From a business standpoint, I can appreciate what they're ostensibly doing.

I also understand IF Monta is upset, but I wouldn't act that way if I was in his position. I would accept the fact that my actions have consequences. You sign contracts supposedly understanding all of this.

 

Wow, people really are turning on Monta quickly. There's too many "if"s there for me, all based on third-party and hearsay evidence. I'm on the fence about what to do about Monta too, pending the state of his health, but I'm not ready to stick a boot in his ass towards the exit door yet either. What a circus we've created here, it's just really sad. I don't understand it because there are a lot of other bad teams in the NBA that just don't seem to have the same level of drama surrounding them. The bad kind of drama, not the good kind. Yes, the head office is a mess, but I think Secret Agent Nelson helps to foster some of that, frankly. Then we have writers like Kawakami who like to stir it up at every opportunity and who knows how much of it they simply make up just to get readers ("my sources say..." yeah, whatever).

 

First, the Warriors are clearly in the wrong about their ability to continue to hold power to void his contract over the ankle injury. If you are saying it was Monta's fault in the first place, then I agree -- riding a moped was against the terms of his contract. I don't have any qualms about that. However, the Warriors had a chance to void Monta's contract when they found out about the accident, but instead they chose to fine him. Afterwards, Monta was cleared to play by doctors to play again, and the Warriors chose to allow him to play by putting him out on the floor. This fulfills the penalties over the incident including the voiding his contract. The Warriors should not have the right to void Ellis' contract in the future if the ankle continues to bother him.

So now, Monta is pouting over what the Warriors continue to steadfastly claim that their contract stipulates. I can't blame him because the Warriors are stating that if he performs poorly in the future, then they can blame the ankle and void the contract at any time. Well, you can't have it both ways. If the ankle was in question, then why was he ever cleared to play and you chose to play him? If the Warriors win, then any injury unrelated to basketball could be treated as a way to void the contract.

We don't know what Monta's intentions are, but most everyone is ready to trade him at a moment's notice over him going back home. For all intentions, this could be a family related matter, and the Warriors blew this up, so it got in the media because now they want to void the contract. However, it doesn't make much sense why "multiple team sources" told of the riff between Ellis and Warriors management. It just ends up hurting Monta's trade value. Most teams would have kept it quiet.

 

Yeah, I got pretty much the same feeling. One minute, Monta and Biedrins are the franchise, and the next minute, they're pariahs based on rumors and innuendos.

If I was the Warriors, I'd keep Monta because he's still good and he's a good fit with the run and gun style similar to Leandro Barbosa of the Suns. His ankle should be good once he's cleared to play again, as long as Nelson doesn't keep him out there too long.

 

Sorry guys, but I never said I'm turning on Monta. I just said IF the rumors are true, I wouldn't want that type of player on my team. I'm just saying for the sake of discussion.

I want nothing more than Monta to be our franchise guy along with Biedrins. But he's been out most of the season. He's not playing right now because of that ankle. Doesn't that tell you something? I don't want the Warriors stuck with a chronically injured Monta when most of his ability is athletic at this point in his career.

Being hopeful, I think he can become a good all-around player, but as it stands, he's not progressing. And if these RUMORS are true, then that sucks.

 

I never said trade him at a moment's notice. Obviously, when you want a player traded, you want it to be under the best circumstances for the team. I would want Monta traded on several conditions.

Like I said, IF the rumors are true and IF things get progressively worse (i.e. he becomes a cancer), of course I wouldn't want him on the team.

 

This thing has gotten so blown up and I don't know why he gets grief about going back home for personal reasons. IF this and IF that, then you don't want him on the team. I'm not sure where those feelings came from. Monta should be one of the fixtures on our team for years to come along with Biedrins. I don't think he's a cancer, but do think someone needs to sit down and have a talk with him to sooth ruffled feathers and all that.

And I don't think it should be Nelson. LOL. The Warriors don't have anyone on the team to do that. Maybe Keith Smart can. Someone the players respect.

 

My friend, no one except you is blowing this up. I would love nothing more than Monta to be our franchise player, but it's been a very rough beginning and it's been no one's fault except his. I'm not turning on Monta. But if he becomes a cancer, I might. Obviously, I'm just saying things for the sake of this discussion and nothing further.

 

First off, it doesn't seem like too many people are saying they want him off the team.

Second, there aren't multiple IFs. There's only one IF. And that is IF the sources are accurate. That's the only IF.

The reason why I started this thread is to say that, IF the sources are accurate, then it's a shame the way Monta is behaving. Because I've been his biggest fan.

And there are multiple sources that say he is showing up late to practice, avoiding team huddles at times, and actually saying that he wants to be traded, while standing on the court during a game. Damn, boy!? Didn't your papa raise you better? To go from such poor, dire circumstances, to go from being the lone savior of Jackson Mississippi, to being a whiny prima donna that pouts on the court?

This is not a "trade Monta" thread. This is a "Can you believe Monta's behavior" thread. And that, of course, is IF the sources are accurate.

The trade talk seems to have stemmed more from the fact that he seems to want a trade himself.
I, for one, hope he doesn't go. I just hope he starts behaving with class, for his family, his hometown, and himself. And for the fans.

 

I think AO nailed it. Nobody likes a malcontent that just signed a huge deal in the off season and then got himself injured for almost the entire 1st season of his new contract (and it happened before the season even started!)

Yeah, our ownership sucks, but it takes two to tango. A bad foundation of players/player leadership can screw a franchise just as much as the poor ownership. If Monta Ellis is a headcase like Baron or Webber or Sprewell or whatever big name star that thinks they are above the franchise, they are garbage. You to play to win, you don't play for the money and you don't do things that let the team and its supporters down. If Monta wants out because we ain't winning, he's a punk. If he dislikes Nelson and wants out, he's got no guts. If he wants out because our ownership are idiots, then I don't blame Ellis. But he shouldn't have signed that deal in the first place and then let down the entire franchise! That's money given to him in good faith and as a reward for his contributions. If reports are true and he wants out because of the disciplinary action or because the warriors aren't winning, he's acting like a punkass and I'd be glad to be rid of him. I like more heart and fundamental skill than physical talent. Give me unathletic Brandon Roy over a dime a dozen swingman that's athletic and can't defend, shoot, pass, or get his team motivated.

Of course, I feel most sports articles are half-truths. Ellis is probably unhappy with something, but he probably doesn't want out. Not yet at least. If he does for specific reasons I'd be unhappy about, then I think he's a punkass most definitely and I'd want him out. Don't want him corrupting Biedrins/Wright.