OT Spiritual or Religious Experiences?

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, no. I have had deeply moving emotional and aesthetic experiences, I have known awe, usually at nature, but I don't consider them spiritual or religious as that connotes something extra-material, or immaterial. I am amazed at what exists in the universe and on this tiny planet, and by the potential, of which we have occasional glimpses, of humanity. I am a secular humanist and rationalist. I need no supernatural explanations and in fact consider them an obstacle.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I have a similar experience. I'm not at all religious, but when I visited a concentration camp years ago, I had a quasi moment.

    Being there was incredibly humbling, powerful and life changing. I came back to the states a completely different person.


    Once I was listening to some songs, including the theme "The Lord is my Shepherd" (while I'm not religious, I enjoy a lot of the music). I was at a low(er) point in my life, and when this song came on it felt like there was a presence with me that I had not felt in years. Actually, any time I listen to the song it, a calming and peaceful feeling overcomes me.

     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    What about the issue of prison time for religious experiences?

    Say it with me. 1, 2, 3...
    LEGALIZE LSD.

    LSD is not poisonous. Nobody goes crazy. When I last looked at FBI stats a decade ago, 20-some million people had been, was it arrested, or done time, for it. I forgot, but I was shocked by the 20 million number. This fucking legal system is the crazy one, not those who believe in freedom.
     
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    Religion is for people who don't know.
     
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    Stevenson Old School

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    Science has now shown that 99% of the universe is invisible. "Dark matter."

    To think your measly five senses can know and perceive all is, paradoxically, the height of both ignorance and arrogance.

    Not understanding spirituality is for those that don't know.
     
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    Explains a lot.

    :smiley-195517897341
     
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    I get the first two lines, but line 3 you seem to be saying that because most of the universe is dark matter/dark energy that we can't perceive by normal (what we consider normal) means, therefore we need to understand spirituality? Am I misunderstanding? I accept the first two. They just mean that we humans evolved on earth with senses tuned to our terrestrial environment, but it does not mean dark matter/energy is in any way immaterial or spiritual.

    Please clarify. Thank you.
     
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    To assume that all others are limited to only 5 senses, or a 19th century understanding of "science", is the height of both ignorance and arrogance.
     
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    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    Have you met Mags?
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I like like the guy, but he is like a dumbass version of Bill Nye. All of his conclusions just go back to biblical verses,which don't exactly explain science very well. Like I said, I like the guy just not compelling arguments for a thinking person.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Ok. I just watched it a second time and was dumbfounded on how stupid this guy actually is.
     

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