OT Stan Van Gundy Says He'd Get Rid of NBA Draft, Make Rookies Enter as Free Agents

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    The old system was a soft cap with penalties, if you exceeded it, you weren't able to sign players for more than 300k. The Red Sox got in trouble for circumventing it by signing multiple players with the same agent and funneling top players more money through them.
     
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    It's funny you say that....normally I'd totally agree with you, except that two of the top 4 picks in this year's draft and a couple of minor leaguers are all pitched (no pun intended) as being potential 2-way players. But the difference is that Otani's done that.
     
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    There a difference between Otani and Hunter Greene. Otani hasn't been forced to pick one and had continued that development at a high level. I think Greene will be up there with Madison Bumgarner with hitting ability for a pitcher, but I don't see his upside as high as Otani. There was another good two way player the Braves signed but I can't remember the name.
     
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    umm, it can't be worse than what the Blazers have been using for the past 40 years.

    But you know this has nothing to do with it. They quit making players stick for four years because it would be discriminating against the poor boys.
     
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    Not to take this all OT but you want our basketball players to have degrees but not our police? :dunno:
     
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    Personally, I don't understand the one-year-in-after HS class rule. There was an article (I think 538, but maybe ESPN--I'll find it) that guessed about the time LeBron would've been the #1 pick. IIRC a case could have been made for when he was 15 or 16.

    If you could play golf or tennis or act at 12, I don't know why you couldn't play ball at 12, if you could play. Not a lot of 12y/o's would, I'd imagine.

    EDIT: It was from a Pelton mailbag:

     
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    The point of the draft is to try to make the league more even, talent-wise. Bad teams get good picks and get better.

    I think it better to leave it the way it is and get rid of the cap.
     
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    I haven't done the analysis yet, but an interesting question would be "where is the knee in the revenue sharing curve between parity productivity and ROI depreciation?"

    For instance, LAL may not mind kicking in luxury tax, even at a 3x rate, if they can get LeBron, Russ and PG13 next year. They may not even mind kicking in $10M of their TV rights money to, say, MIL to keep things even. But at some point, they're going to say "whyTF should I keep subsidizing some small market team that's just stealing a good player or two every once in a while instead of making the big money if we had 20-24 really good teams in the league?"
     
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    Colleges should pay their players, too. There's no advantage that I can see to being anal about amateur status. The players bring in the fans who pay for tickets and make the university money. TV contracts, too.

    If they paid well enough, the kids might even stay in college and finish with a degree.
     
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    No I don't want to require anyone to have a degree Excellence does not begin with a degree.
     
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    Proper training does though.
     
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    So how exactly would you tell if someone had the base qualifications for a job?
     
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    So you'd vote for an uneducated president? A degree wouldn't be a requirement for you?
     
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    When I see what educated president do, I wouldn't mind an uneducated one... Maybe a random guy doing random things would actually work better !
     
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    Well we'll find out soon on that one.
     
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