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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I would be very content if Shaedon can get 15-20 mpg on a regular rotation. That's fairly on par with what guys like Kobe/Paul George/TMac/Jaylen Brown got their rookie years.

    Unless we hit a rough spot and drop a bunch of games... if so, then I want him getting reps closer to 30 mpg
     
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  2. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Word, but it was an excellent attention grabber. OP knew what they were doing.

    I think an argument for him starting isn’t too crazy.
     
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  3. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    FTFY.
     
  4. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    yeah...I kept saying last season that if you gauged by the direction the NBA is evolving, and then factored Nurk's injury history and paint-bound game, he didn't deserve more than the 12M he was making; and that was being generous IMO

    I get that the Blazers were kind of in a corner and couldn't let Nurk walk, but he's overpaid now and very likely a negative contract

    all Nurk's faults we saw last night have been visible for years. He's 28 now and it's probably not realistic to think he'll alter his game for the better.
     
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    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    hate is not good man, go see a psychiatrist
     
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    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    was Nurk worth 17.5M/year last night? Do you pay a guy 17.5M/year to sit on the bench in the 4th Q?

    I know Nurk will have some good games; but I also know he will have many games like last night. I also know there's a good chance he'll miss games this year and during the 4 years of that contract...maybe lots of game
     
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    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It would probably depend on what our record it. If we are around 4-8 seed, he may still be around the 15mpg mark and my guess is the roster stays largely the same + a new backup C maybe.

    If we are around 10 or are out of the play-in, I want his minutes closer to 30 because Hart is probably gone.

    There will be competing teams that will give us at least a 1st and a backup C for Hart imo.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Me, id trade Naz before Hart. Sharpe can get play behind Simons and Hart.
    Josh is a difference maker.
     
  9. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    Sit Nurk and go small ball.
    Lillard
    Simons
    Sharpe
    Hart
    Grant

    Winslow
    Nurkic/Eubanks
    Nassir (I still like him. Dude hasn’t played in forever)
     
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    No doubt he’s a difference maker. That’s the thing though—man will likely play himself into a contract that is out of our reach. Guys like Sharpe and Nas are also behind him, and Hart’s contract and play make for a very attractive trade piece.

    I think it’s almost inevitable that a Hart trade happens at the deadline no matter where we are in the standings. I’m going to just enjoy the ride, I love watching him play.
     
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  11. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    You may be right but I think Chauncey values defense and Josh is a better defender than Anf & Dame. Plus he pushes the ball regardless what position he plays.
    It will come down to who Chauncey wants, imo and from what I understand he was high on the Hart acquisition.
     
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  12. SIeepwalker

    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Never use green font. If someone doesn't get it, they don't deserve to know it's a joke (also any joke becomes unfunny when you say HEY IT'S A JOKE BY THE WAY)
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You'll find out soon enough.
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    It's kind of a fallacy that centers in the NBA were lead-footed players who took up space rooted to the area right in front of the basket in the past, though. Few of the best fit that mold. Wilt might have been the best all-around athlete in NBA history. Russell was a great athlete. Kareem was a karate student for freaking Bruce Lee. Hakeem. David Robinson. Alonzo Mourning. Oden, if he had stayed healthy. Those guys might not have shot the ball outside the way today's 5s do, but they were agile defenders and great leapers. There were a few Nurk-like centers who got near that level, but most of those types hit their ceiling at very good and they're the vast majority of journeymen.
     
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    Agree, I am really reluctant to get rid of Hart. And before there are any stupid "untouchable references", yes of course I would trade him for the right big. But usually, the right bigs, are not available. (fans can fantasize about it if they choose) He reminds me of Mario Elie who we let slip away after just one year for a 2nd round draft pick. We would end up regretting it.
     
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    that's true. There were some great paint-bound C's like Artis Gilmore, Bob Lanier, etc. But the all time greats were pretty mobile. But there wasn't the floor-stretching factor of the three point line, and that has drastically changed game concepts

    there were also some 'modern' NBA C's back then like Dave Cowens, Dan Issell, and Alvin Adams. And some amazing stretch-4's like Tom Chambers
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Nurk's more of a Bob Lanier/Nate Thurmond type. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    100% and Hart is a player that can be vocal with other players which imo is needed if done in the right way.
     
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  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dude would pout harder than he has ever pouted before.
     
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    As was Mario Elie btw. These types of players are more firey than most. Not many on the current roster. Most are pretty quiet.
     
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