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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Gronk Brady, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    No, not at all but adding young talent isn't necessarily a sign that you are giving up on your prime players. Carter might have had a better chance at winning a title had he not sulked that year (not that his career wasn't really good).
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I never have been. Does that make my opinion less valid
     
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  3. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    Honesty until the last couple years I’m not sure I could have ever afforded season tickets without asking my parents for it. So I haven’t been a season ticket holder either, I don’t think that makes ones opinion more valid though.
     
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  4. Harry's Raincoat

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    Reading all of this thread, finally.....I offer these comments:

    1) July 2015 - Aldridge leaves for Spurs, Blazers break up very good starting 5 and begin to RETOOL around Dame.
    2) Olshey brings in Aminu, Davis, give more playing time to CJ and Blazers are SURPRISINGLY NOT a lottery team!
    3) Olshey uses RARE cap space to sign ET and matches on Crabbe offer sheet and re-signs/retains Leonard and Harkless.
    4) Steve Blake turns into Jusuf Nurkic!!
    5) Drafting quality skilled players in past few yrs: Collins - Simons - Swanigan - Trent (via trade)

    Is it perfect? No, of course not. But we didn't have to go through 2003-2006 again! We avoided being a bad team and the pain that goes along with it. But it also means, that its MUCH HARDER to land an impact player in his youth. We're still transitioning from Aldridge and the guys (Lopez, Batum, Matthews) to Dame, CJ and the young guys!

    Olshey is being patient........something some in here could benefit from.......and he really hasn't made a BAD trade or move. The only close one for me was re-signing Leonard without him having received an offer sheet. We could have matched his $8M/yr deal from someone.

    Olshey is working!! He will pounce when the deal is right. He's not going to swap CJ for DeRozen and just create a new, same level lineup! He wants to improve.
     
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  5. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    If the Blazers don't win the championship by the time the season begins, Olshey needs to go. Period.
     
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  6. blue9

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    Bosh has always been overrated as fuck, IMO. He was a moderately better version of LA. The only reason he ever won was because he got traded to a team with LBJ and Wade where he could play his rightful role as 3rd wheel. I think it's entirely possible that Collins or Simons could put up big numbers on a crap team like Bosh did in TOR.
     
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    Nice post! It puts the whole growth stage in perspective, imo.
    But also, the expectations this next two years goes way up.
     
  8. Harry's Raincoat

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    I would add (easy looking back) that signing Leonard and Harkless to 4yr deals tied our hands. Deals (obviously) would have been better if 2yr guaranteed and then T.O. for both. We wouldn't have ML and we would still have MH on roster IMO.
     
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  9. JoshuaHall

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    A little ironic, eh?

    VC “trade for Vets!”

    Drafts future all-star

    VC “god damnit, I’m out!”

    So maybe Dame’s patience is understanding that Neil’s approach to team building is the appropriate one; something VC failed to understand - in your own example.
     
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  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Chris Bosh is an 11 time all star. Gimme a break. Overrated?

    Next time we land a prospect as highly touted and as good as Bosh, maybe we won't be as disappointed. Our best prospect averaged 8 points per game on 40% shooting in summer league going up against guys that won't be in the NBA next year. Yes his defense was stellar, but you're telling me he is our next great hope?
     
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    Also has more rings than our franchise. Fucker.
     
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    *Played the majority of his career in an INCREDIBLY WEAK conference, and then with two HOFers. Did he ever lead TOR to a winning record?

    Edit: I just looked it up and TOR had a winning season ONCE while he was there. If a WC all-star selection doesn't mean shit to me, than an EC selection - ESPECIALLY during that era - means a whole lot less. Yeah, he's overrated.
     
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    What I hear is that, over the years, Dame has lost some of his enthusiasm for this situation.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    "We tried, I guess"

    Dame sounds dissapointed as fuck.
     
  15. Gronk Brady

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    Dame is disappointed but some Neil apologist forum members in here are happy so it’s all good
     
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    Neil can't trade a rook until Aug 5, right? Maybe we need to wait until then to draw conclusions about the summer.
     
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    30 days from whenever they signed.
    It seems like they would have waited to sign either if there was thought they could include one in a deal.
     
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    Reep Well-Known Member

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    Unless something broke loose after they signed Trent (they did sign him, right?). A lot of pieces have moved this past week. Might change things.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You sir should ready yourself for a great letdown. Ed was the heart and soul of this team ON and OFF the court. Stats don’t show true value sometimes.
     
  20. JoshuaHall

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    Please show me where I said this.
     

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