Stauskas?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by illmatic99, Jun 30, 2018.

  1. Sarni

    Sarni Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Messages:
    3,324
    Likes Received:
    2,782
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Kraków, Poland
    Well we cannot offer Jabari a deal anyway. He’s not joining anybody for MLE, let alone taxpayer’s MLE and we have nothing to offer Bucks in a sign-and-trade (no, they are not taking Aminu, Leonard and Swanigan plus a second round pick).
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  2. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    6,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Given Parker's history of serious knee injuries, there is a disconnect between his perceived value and his actual value. If the Bucks get any kind of reasonable s&t offer, they should jump on it.
     
  3. Sarni

    Sarni Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Messages:
    3,324
    Likes Received:
    2,782
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Kraków, Poland
    They would still be better letting him go and freeing up the cap space than trading him for bad contracts and average players.
     
  4. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    6,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed.
     
  5. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    13,648
    Likes Received:
    10,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    The only thing I can think of is that Stotts likes different guys who can run a pick and roll. Stauskas can do that a little and I don't think Pat could.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    56,233
    Likes Received:
    54,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    If he brings Pat back, he can't say that he brought in a former lottery pick.
     
  7. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    6,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Isn't nice having a GM who thinks the fans are stupid?
     
  8. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    37,595
    Likes Received:
    22,120
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    IT's OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    14,427
    Likes Received:
    13,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Marcos, CA
    That's the off-season championship banner, right there!
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,109
    Likes Received:
    40,472
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,060
    Likes Received:
    9,014
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'd be interested to see how many options Stauskas had left...i.e., if he would've signed a 2yr vet min, or (since we seem to be breaking up our MLE with Curry) taking a 3yr barely-over-minimum out of the MLE account with a couple of non-guaranteed years.

    There's a chance, assuming he maintains his shooting skill, that he follows the career path of Korver and Redick. I invite you to take a look at their first 6 or so years in the league.
     
    RR7 and bodyman5000 and 1 like this.
  12. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Never once were they as bad as Stauskas. Stauskas shouldn't even be in the league.
     
    Labinot41 likes this.
  13. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,060
    Likes Received:
    9,014
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe you weren't watching a ton of ORL Redick, but the dude barely got off the bench in his first 3 years and didn't do much when he did.
     
    RR7 likes this.
  14. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Redick still wasn't awful inside the arc, and was more productive than Stauskas offensively. Redick was just a much more talented player that didn't have consistent minutes to produce. Stauskas just has no talent. He's below-average to horrible in every area of the game except 3pt shooting.
     
  15. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    8,446
    Likes Received:
    8,728
    Trophy Points:
    113
    True. but that was more due to his defensive effort. Than anything else.
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  16. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Anyone who doesn't think this is a horrible signing, find another area (other than 3pt shooting) where Stauskas isn't bad, and a stat to back it up.
     
    theprunetang likes this.
  17. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    8,446
    Likes Received:
    8,728
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's not that I don't think it's a horrible signing.
    It's that I think he's better than Jake Layman & the Baseball player.
     
    Wizard Mentor likes this.
  18. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,060
    Likes Received:
    9,014
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Through age 24 season...

    You think spending a vet min contract on a former lotto pick with a skillset (and frankly, athletic type) that has a history of taking a while to develop, but has staying power, to be the 15th man on the bench until he proves something is horrible? Again, we kept Luis Montero on the roster for a year. We've given Sasha Pavlovic and Victor Claver and Jake Layman run. Horrible?

    Now, should that have been the "midnight Day 1" move? Nope. Does it suck that that's our 2nd-best upgrade in FA, behind a guy who was injured all last year? Yup. Do I think Olshey sux? Yup. Do I think a vet-min signing rates a horrible grade? Nope.
     
    RR7, rotary111 and Hobbesarable like this.
  19. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    11,510
    Likes Received:
    20,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Steak Sauce was only drafted 8th because the Sacramento Kings exist.
     
  20. tester551

    tester551 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,037
    Likes Received:
    3,848
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're right - not horrible. But also not very promising.

    In looking at the advanced stats - Korver, Redick, & Stauskas are very similar except in 2 very important areas.
    1) Stauskas' TS% is significantly lower.
    2) Stauskas' WS/48, BMP, VORP, & ORTG-DRTG are all significantly lower. This is likely due to the defensive end of the game... apparently he just isn't the lock down defender that Redick or Korver are.

    Just because Layman, Claver, & Montero were on a roster doesn't mean that they every should have been.
     
    PtldPlatypus likes this.

Share This Page