Stein: Bogut makes sense for Portland

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  1. dviss1

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    Heres what'd is do:

    PHI Gets:
    Allen Crabbe

    DAL Gets:
    Mason Plumlee
    Noah Vonleh
    2018 POR 1st

    POR Gets:
    2017 LAL 1st (~11th)
    Andrew Bogut
    Wesley Matthews

    Crabbe acts us a salary dump to balance our outgoing salaries while landing us a lotto pick. We land fiery defensive veterans in Bogut and Matthews. With the ~11th and ~20th picks, we could trade up to ~7th or keep those 2 picks. I trust Niel's drafting.

    Dallas sheds over $20M in salary and gets younger.

    Philadelphia gets Crabbe while only giving up their 2nd pick instead of Noel.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Gross dude.... no way do I want Wes back on this team with that salary. Plus there were rumors that he had changed before he left.

    No thanks.
     
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    What -really- pisses me off about this is bogut going to Dallas had to happen so Durant could get on GSW.
     
  6. illmatic99

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    Philly gives up a lottery pick to take on Crabbe and his deal?
     
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    Wes is better than Crabbe so swapping them makes sense. I heard firsthand that he changed but he brings a fire to this team that were lacking.
     
  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    And, our current defense doesn't make you sick to your stomach?

    BNM
     
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    A late lotto pick is not inconceivable for Crabbe. It's their second pick and Crabbe fits well with the players the have. Might just have to nave it a right to swap 1sts deal.
     
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    Not happening. lol Crabbe has negative value. If he's gonna get you a lotto pick, I'll take Dallas out of it altogether and just swap AC for the pick.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yeah, PHI gets totally screwed in this deal.

    I applaud the idea and effort of the 3-team trade scenario, but if we're going to trade Crabbe to PHI, I think a Crabbe for Noel swap makes more sense. Colangelo has had a grudge against Noel ever since he called him silly, is totally jerking him around and wants him gone. With Embiid beasting, Okafor and Ben Simmons waiting in the wings, Noel is the odd man out in PHI To PHI, that Lakers' lottery pick is much more valuable than Nerlens Noel.

    On the other hand, Noel is an elite defending big man that's only 22. Sounds like he addresses a huge need for us. We get younger (and much better defensively) and get to dump Crabbe's contract.

    BNM
     
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    He doesn't have negative value to Philadelphia.

    I'm sure he could get us at least swap rights with that pick.
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    So why not Crabbe for Noel? It fixes problems for both teams. PHI gets some much needed outside shooting to spread the floor for their bigs and Noel gives us an elite defending big.

    Remember, Noel was a high lottery pick and he's only 22. But, in PHI he's redundant and his GM hates him for calling him silly.

    BNM
     
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    Revised:

    PHI Gets:
    Allen Crabbe
    2018 CLE 1st

    DAL Gets:
    Mason Plumlee
    Noah Vonleh
    2018 POR 1st

    POR Gets:
    Nerlens Noel
    Andrew Bogut
    Wesley Matthews

    Nets Get:
    Meyers Leonard
     
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    If we can get a different defensive big man then I'd rather have that pick.
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    We probably don't have that option. It's up to PHI and they have a recent history of valuing picks, especially lottery picks, over players.

    BNM
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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  18. illmatic99

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    Yup, when in doubt, keep it simple. AC for Noel and entice them with a pick.

    3 team and 4 team deals are fun on trade machine, but they just don't happen in reality.
     
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    Well I think I'd be willing to trade them Crabbe for swap rights to those picks.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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