STELLAR TANKING JOB, JOE!

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  1. BIG Q

    BIG Q Well-Known Member

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    I hope Portland is tanking next year and I hope Jody sells. I am not certain of the tanking with Ant/Grant/Brogdon on the roster. I am certain Jody will not be selling any time before the new tv contract is in full force. But there is always hope.
     
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  2. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    Where are you getting this information?
    Wherever it is, I really don't think it's accurate.

    This seems to be the most accurate that I have seen. It shows that Portland stayed $1.3M below the tax line.
    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-trail-blazers/cap/
     
  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Corrected myself on prev page
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Again, we don't know that he didn't try. We don't know what is being offered. I think if Timelord hadn't gotten hurt, he would have been moved during the season. There was supposedly a lot of interest in him. He's just a ticking time bomb with his injury history.
     
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    I heard there was an offer from the Clippers for their 1st for Brogdon. I could understand wanting more, but now you have to get rid of salary and there would have been a minutes crunch if everyone was healthy. Also, the re-signing of Thybulle wasn't particularly good. It'll be fine if he can get a return for him but I'm not holding my breath. It feels like every time there's an objection, fans are told we can't judge. Cronin needs to focus on getting his youngsters up to par before turning to veterans and talking about wanting to be like Houston.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    That was the offer for Brogdon when he was on the Celtics, but I'm not sure if it was still available later when they were trying to make the move for Harden.

    I still like the Thybulle signing.
     
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    You can judge, but your judgement is going to be called out as incomplete and incorrect due to lack of inside information.
     
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    By that standard, we can never judge anything unless we work in the organization's front office.
     
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    If we were competing, sure, but Thybulle is even more irrelevant now that we have Camara, a second-round rookie who outplayed him most the season. And you have Murray and Rupert who I'm assuming we're trying to develop. On top of all that, we're likely to draft another wing who would need his minutes in this year's draft. Now we're 8 mil over the tax. I'm just hoping we don't have to attach an asset just to get rid of him.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Thybulle still has value, and it's better to retain him at a reasonable price rather than lose him for nothing. We also had no idea that Camara would be as good as he was.
     
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    Incorrect, Blazers have 1.3 million of space UNDER the luxury tax.
     
  12. illmatic99

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    Lol. Yes. You are the third person to correct me and the 2nd person to fail to see that i correct myself just a few posts after.

    Good lord.
     
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    Thybulle apparently had some value to Dallas last summer.

    Now after a disappointing year earning $10 million? I'd imagine he clearly has negative value.
     
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    Exactly, we don't need to tank or rest stars... let them get out and play; we will lose plenty of games regardless. This season gave us some interesting surprises; Banton's a keeper imho, and finally will make a three-guard lineup worthwhile. Trade Ant and some picks and make moves for the future that way. I want to see the kids play next season.
     
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    If you're so sensitive about this, edit your original post!

    Good lord.
     
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    I am done with the intentional tank....and I am not even a season ticket holder. We have the vets now to compete. The youngsters can still get their minutes and continue to develop. But I say make them earn their starting positions, don't just give it to them. I think Scoot will be ready to start but if someone like Brogdon is playing better then start Malcolm.

    This team can be competitive next year and still develop their youngster for one simple reason.....injuries....they are a reality in a long season. Minutes will be available for 3rd string players who will need to play at some point in the season.

    Brogdon or Scoot
    Ant or Sharpe
    Grant- Camara (or Thybulle)
    Walker- Camara
    Ayton-Williams

    Drafting Sarr would help as he could back up the 4 and the 5 until he is ready to start
    Getting an SF like Cody Williams or Risacher would be for the near future, not next year.

    That leaves Rupert. Banter, Murray

    I am ok with trading Ant or Grant but it needs to be for someone like Franz Wagner. Otherwise, keep them.
    Get a 1st for Brogdon or keep him.
    Thybulle I am not sure about.
     
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    I agree. He had value to Dallas since they had the ability to sign him for just money.

    He had no value to Philadelphia (a good team) before he was traded in terms of earning significant minutes. He has had no value to Portland (a bad team) in terms of him helping win games.

    I don't understand why any team would look at the dude and think he's worth giving up value to get when he's not worth the money he's being paid.
     
  18. BonesJones

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    Should've never matched Thybulle
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    10 million is nothing in this CBA. That's a steal for a rotation player.
     
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    Complete for a play-in spot, or maybe even a playoff spot? Yeah.

    Compete for a title? No way.

    And Sharpe/Scoot/this year's lottery pick is not a good enough core to EVER compete for a title.

    We need more pieces because it's basically all we have, and that means being bad for a couple of more years IMO. It means taking on bad contracts for picks. It means to stop spending money and roster spots on injury-prone guys that will probably shut it down whether the team is terrible or not.
     

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