Steve Adams Calls Warriors Monkeys

Fuck, in this particular case I'll own being intolerant of transgenders. If that offends you (which, I actually could care less if it does) and makes you intolerant of me, what's that make you? A bigot of a bigot? Hey guess what? People are entitled to their own opinion.


So you obviously advocate for it to be okay for any man to go into any Woman's bathroom, and vice versa, no rules right?

There has to be some rules for certain things. So don't twist my words and talk about how I want Government into every piece of life.

edit: and 46% of Americans agree with me (vs 41% against):
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-poll-americans-divided-over-transgender-bathroom-laws-supreme-court/

 

The only so called "victims" I see are the white males on this board upset because Adams, appropriately, apologized for an unintentional slur. And who are "victims" because if they make a bigoted remark someone will say it's a bigoted remark.

No one else is claiming "victimhood".

And drag in transpeople out of the clear blue sky because, no reason. Just because. I guess the party of small government wants to have bathroom police checking everyone's DNA in every public restroom?

Amazing how more and more bigotry worms its way into this thread (pun intended).

 

Not one person has "advocated for any man to go into any Woman's bathroom and vice versa, no rules". Trans women are NOT men. They are women. Trans men are NOT women. They are men. And you insisting otherwise is bigotry and ignorance, yes. Are you going to check everyone's DNA at the restroom door?

There has not been one single documented case of any transwoman attacking any cisgender girl or woman in any public restroom, or any man "pretending to be transgender" in order to carry out such assaults. Assault is a crime in every state and territory of the USA, no matter where or by whom it is carried out. You do not need special laws targeting transpeople to prevent assault. Those laws are proposed because transgender people are seen as the "weak link" in the LGBTQI community by those who hate gays and are trying to fight back against our civil rights. Transpeople are not like nice respectable middle class gays getting married, not like nice patriotic gays joining the military, not like nice professional gays who are CEOs. It's harder to make an "other" of a nice mom or dad, or well dressed professional, or someone laying his/her life in the line for his/her country, but transgender people are still seen as an easy target for BIGOTS.

You can have you opinion that you hate transpeople, or gays, or Mexican, or Muslims, I don't fucking care. I care when bigotry is made law.

 

Interesting that you see people of different opinion than you, "Victims".

The only reason he apologized was because he's in America where the PC police and Butt-hurt is real.

And the only reason people like myself are speaking out about it, is not because we are 'victims' but because we disagree with the popular sentiment. Transgenders got brought up as an example of another PC Police/Butt-hurt/social justice warrior shit going on in America.

I am sorry you can't debate about something without getting so emotional.

 

Trans-Women are not women, they are biologically men.
Trans-Men are not men, they are biologically women.

Meaning... use the bathroom for which you are born (and subsequently your genes identify you) to use.

I don't hate anyone; and implying I hate mexicans/muslims and transgenders is really fucking funny.

Wake up, *I* and many others have different opinions than you social justice warriors do. It doesn't mean we hate people. You Liberals really have a hard time practicing what you preach.

 

Bingo. There it is. Such a gish gallop amount of bullshit. Now I'm being intolerant of the intolerant so I'm really the intolerant one.... Really?

Newsflash:

Calling out intolerance in an effort to curb it ISN'T an example of it.

This argument is tired..

And hell no I'm not advocating that any man go in any woman's restroom. I'm advocating that people who are transgender can use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

With regard to any man going into any bathroom, That's what YOU'RE advocating.

Who's going to be policing this shit? Who's going to be going into women's bathrooms and checking people's dicks to see if they're male or female? Is it going to be a man or a woman? Because what you're advocating for is to have people go in bathrooms to check other people's private parts.

 

Hmmm. My youngest son suffers from a mood disorder, and takes pills for it. Should he not take them because he'll never be what he was supposed to be?

 

Wrong. What you are born as, is what you should use, that has and always will be my opinion.

Whose policing it? IDK. I don't care. But we differ on our opinions, and that is okay. It's America. The best thing about it, is that majority of Americans agree with me.

 

I was talking about gene therapy in reference to those pills. In other words, making men grow boobs, and women grow facial hair.

 

We all got it before the thread was created and my attempt at showing how silly it is to compare humans to animals was to put it in persepective. One can read George Orwell or watch Sesame Street and see it. Monkey's are crazy athletic...deer are fast...pigs eat a lot...etc.....get it now? It's not racist...it's common...native americans often identified with spirit animals and even named children after them....literature is full of humanized animals...the whole concept that what he said was racist was ridiculous. If anything it was a compliment about how hard they were to guard...I'm the last guy you want to lecture about racism dviss

 

I don't think he "appropriately" apologized. I don't think he needed to apologize at all. I think that's what has some people upset. We seem to have arrived at a place where you can't say anything without it offending someone.

 

I really don't get the two cops shooting a monkey having anything to do with this topic

 

I'm not enough of a scientist to claim I know what causes certain behaviors in certain people. I know I prefer brunettes with big boobs, and my best friend likes tall blondes with great legs. Does that make one of us wrong? People like who they like, and people are born the way they are born. People are born with disorders every day, and instead of looking at a person born as a man wanting to become a woman as the disorder, maybe look at the actual birth as the disorder. I'm probably saying this wrong, but wanting to become what you identify with is not the disorder. Being born a man, when you identify as a woman is the disorder, and all that person is doing is correcting it. Disorder is a poor choice of words, but I think everyone gets what I am trying to say.

 

I get what you are saying, and just like what your kid takes to correct his mood to 'normal', the identity confused should seek help to fix their confusion. Ultimately, its a problem in their brain, chemical imbalance, broken genes, etc. But going through, uncorrected (or doing things to enable it), is just allowing that disease/disorder to control them. IMO.

 

It's really simple to just eliminate gender based toilets and have toilets with that lock from the inside...in some establishments with heavy traffic they have women's, men's and family toilets so a father could change his baby girl's diaper if he needed to. I have been in many countries where there's no men's or women's toilet...it's just the toilet...my home doesn't have separate toilets for guests or genders.

 

My question is if a transgendered man or a woman as you call it, uses the womans bathroom, who fucking knows about it? And why is it an issue? The only way you know is if they make it known they used to be a man. So the whole argument is about transgenders getting attention. Im sure there are plenty of people out there who go about their lives as normal without drawing attention to themselves for the sake of feeling oppressed. Those are the ones i feel sorry for.

 

I think that's the fundamental difference. It's not a problem in their brain, or a chemical imbalance. And certainly not a disease.