again we were arguing front 4 not total defense.......... I admit, the bears have a better OVERALL defense but theres not better front 4 then what the giants have going right now, I mean sure we are a little weak at DT but our De's make up for it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>again we were arguing front 4 not total defense.......... I admit, the bears have a better OVERALL defense but theres not better front 4 then what the giants have going right now, I mean sure we are a little weak at DT but our De's make up for it.</div> Bears had a better run defense (Front 4 related) Same amount of sacks. Better Pass Defense (Pass rush related) They have great DE's. Giants have great DE's. Giants have a bad interior rush. Bears have a great interior rush. Bears stop the run up front better and the Bears have great depth. Giants have decent depth. It all starts with the front 4. Without a good front 4, you won't have a good defense. Bears have #1 overall defense and one of the best front 4's. Giants have a pretty good defense and a pretty good front 4. No comparison. Bears > Giant in every defensive category and position (outside of maybe DE's)
wow i just read the argument you ladies were having and i love how many times subjects just change. Giants have the best De's in the NFL but not the best front 4. i love it how you guys are saying that the Bears have the same amount of sacks as the Giants but youre not reading things right. Which D-line had more sacks? thats what GF1 is trying to go for even though he seems to be a bit too much into the Giants front 4. Bears have the better D by far which i will say (even though its been said a million times in this thread) which is great! Also i find it amazing that a Packer fan is defending a bears team!? You see new things everyday! BF1 i see that you still love Strahan!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MysteryMan)</div><div class='quotemain'>wow i just read the argument you ladies were having and i love how many times subjects just change. Giants have the best De's in the NFL but not the best front 4. i love it how you guys are saying that the Bears have the same amount of sacks as the Giants but youre not reading things right. Which D-line had more sacks? thats what GF1 is trying to go for even though he seems to be a bit too much into the Giants front 4. Bears have the better D by far which i will say (even though its been said a million times in this thread) which is great! Also i find it amazing that a Packer fan is defending a bears team!? You see new things everyday! BF1 i see that you still love Strahan!!</div> So you agree that the he's over hyping the Giants front 4. If you had better DT's then he'd have a valid point. Fact is you don't have that great of DT's. I was also responding to the fact that he said the Bears D was only good because of the teams they played. The Giants weren't better than the Bears in any stat on defense. You can't take the sacks the Bears had away. The front 4 is where it starts. Part of what frees up a LB to get to the QB is the offensive line double teaming someone up front. That's why the Bears were so effective in every defensive category. Their front 4 was dominated. Their LB's flew too the ball. Their DB's made plays. They also have depth. Outside of the Carolina game Chicago's defense was dominate last year. No comparison. Bears D is better all around. Up front, in the secondary, and their line backing core is probably strong as well (though Arrington is the wild card for the Giants) Now if he were too talk offense, he could have valid points.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MysteryMan)</div><div class='quotemain'>wow i just read the argument you ladies were having and i love how many times subjects just change. Giants have the best De's in the NFL but not the best front 4. i love it how you guys are saying that the Bears have the same amount of sacks as the Giants but youre not reading things right. Which D-line had more sacks? thats what GF1 is trying to go for even though he seems to be a bit too much into the Giants front 4. Bears have the better D by far which i will say (even though its been said a million times in this thread) which is great! Also i find it amazing that a Packer fan is defending a bears team!? You see new things everyday! BF1 i see that you still love Strahan!!</div> Yep, the subject change to avoid the facts. 1) Do we really know how many sacks he earned? How many of them are from deals? Would they still have more without the deal sacks? I doubt it 2) Why hasnt the NFL investigated Strahan and Farve for cheating yet? Do they have a deal with league office? Definately
actually the giants did beat us in 1 defensive stat.. and thats fumble recoveries.. they recovered 20 to the bears 10
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>actually the giants did beat us in 1 defensive stat.. and thats fumble recoveries.. they recovered 20 to the bears 10</div> Wooo!!!!!!!!!! Looking at this years roster they should be beating the bears in many things on D this year. I hope atleast....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yep, the subject change to avoid the facts. 1) Do we really know how many sacks he earned? How many of them are from deals? Would they still have more without the deal sacks? I doubt it 2) Why hasnt the NFL investigated Strahan and Farve for cheating yet? Do they have a deal with league office? Definately</div> Yea BF1 strahan looked like he was going to kill Favre on the play which means hey maybe he didnt know until he had an open lane to Favre. If youre so mad about it i say you go to Favre's house and talk to him about it. Also bring a shotgun so that he speaks the truth
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MysteryMan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>actually the giants did beat us in 1 defensive stat.. and thats fumble recoveries.. they recovered 20 to the bears 10</div> Wooo!!!!!!!!!! Looking at this years roster they should be beating the bears in many things on D this year. I hope atleast....</div> Doubtful but u can hope
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MysteryMan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yep, the subject change to avoid the facts. 1) Do we really know how many sacks he earned? How many of them are from deals? Would they still have more without the deal sacks? I doubt it 2) Why hasnt the NFL investigated Strahan and Farve for cheating yet? Do they have a deal with league office? Definately</div> Yea BF1 strahan looked like he was going to kill Favre on the play which means hey maybe he didnt know until he had an open lane to Favre. If youre so mad about it i say you go to Favre's house and talk to him about it. Also bring a shotgun so that he speaks the truth </div> I blame strahan as much as farve. Obviously in it together. I would go to strahans house, but, after what his wife said i am afraid of what i might see. If he would cheat in football, why not marraige.
