Game Thread SUMMER LEAGUE GAME# 6 - GRIZZLIES VS BLAZERS - JULY 16, 2018 - MONDAY, 7:30 PM PDT, ESPN2

I haven't read the thread. What's been said about Caleb? He killed.

 

You should really read the thread.... if you don't have enough whining in your life.

 

It was over reaction night, Wade was bad, Caleb was good!

My personal feelings is that it was probably good for Caleb’s confidence to have a good game. Wade will be fine, it was an ugly SL game so it was pretty hard to watch at times but they won!

 

I thought that Wade showed that he has some maturing to do to retain his composure. He clearly was pressing to show the Grizzlies that they blew it in cutting him loose. No problem in having that desire, but you have to maintain control. Some of his drives were a mess and he got T'd up, 2 for 13 shooting, +/- of -7? Everyone has off nights, but his seemed to be primarily due to a loss of composure. Hanging out with Dame should help that.

 

He only 20 and he hasn't even grown in his body yet. Yes he still needs to get stronger and he also needs to get lift in his shots on the inside each time. Sometimes he flat foot when shoots and that one reason is shot comes up short.

 

I really don't care. Mutombo was not some kind of offensive powerhouse either. Collins is a badass on defense. He's the best young defensive big I have seen on our team in a loooooooong time. He's still so young, but he has great instincts and he knows how to go up for the block without drawing the foul.

All I want from him is to develop a consistent outside shot. We have Nurk. We don't need him to be an interior scorer. He should work on his handle and his shooting. But his defense could be DPOY level and that's worth much more than scoring.

 

Is it? You think Golden State would rather have Curry or Draymond?

 

Who do you think is more difficult to find? A scoring guard or a big that dominates the paint on defense? More than one pro player has said that Dame could replace Curry on the Warriors and they'd still be just as good. Without Draymond, I'm not sure that team wins its first two titles. They'd just be another Portland with two high scoring guards.

What they are now is just silly with Durant and Boogie.... but the original core team that won all those games was Curry/Klay/Draymond and it was Dray's ability to defend multiple positions and pass the ball that let Curry pop off all the time.

 

Well I don’t agree that Dame is as good as Curry. I don’t mean to disrespect Dame, but Curry is legit the best shooter in NBA history or at least one of. Dame is a good shooter but he’s not on that level. I think both Draymond and Curry are needed for that team to succeed.
In terms of what’s harder to find, both are pretty hard to find. If it was so easy to find a great scorer everyone would have one, and if it was easy to find a good defendsive big there would be more too.

 

Not saying Dame is as good as Curry. But I'm saying that the way that Golden State is built, you could put Dame on that team in place of Curry and they still win championships. Not sure they do that without Draymond.

I will also say that while Curry is definitely a more efficient shooter, Dame beats him with his durability. I'd rather have Dame for 82 games than Curry for 60.

 

There are many things that Dame can do that Curry can't. I've never seen Curry dunk in traffic.

 

Dame doesn’t dunk that much, Stephs WORST season of 3 shooting is 2% higher than Dames BEST season. While Dame is great, like I love that he’s a Blazer I really do and I want to keep him here for his career, Steph is in a class very few players in the history of the NBA have been in offensively. So yeah Dame can dunk and is probably a better all round athlete than Curry is. Curry is just incredible and I hate GS...

 

You have to replace Draymond with someone sort of comparable though if you’re replacing Curry with Dame. If you put a “lesser” version of Draymond on GS they would still be pretty good.

 

For a second I thought this said that you had never seen Curry drunk in traffic. I was thinking... I should hope not!

 

But that's the problem..... who is the lesser version of Draymond? It's extremely hard to replace because there aren't very many people who can actually defend five positions, shoot, and pass the ball at a high level.

 

I think it’s only harder to identify them because you have to have a team around them for them to fit into. If Draymond shows up to GS and Steph / Klay aren’t already there, would he have been anything?

 

WTF Jeff Ayres is Jeff Pendergraph!!! I am soooo late on this topic.

 

Yeah..... about five years late

https://www.si.com/nba/point-forwar...dergraph-legally-changes-his-surname-to-ayres

 

He changed his name 5 years ago. He played two years in San Antonio as Jeff Ayres and 17 games with the Clipper 3 years ago - the last time he played in the NBA.

I'm surprised he's still around and even more surprised he's playing on a summer league team at the age of 31.

I guess I shouldn't be. Shitty former Blazer power forwards have a way of showing up on random summer league teams years after we'd all but forgotten about them (see Ike Diogu last summer).

BNM

 

Dame however, as we all know, drinks like a fish