Summer upgrades

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  1. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    ok, what does vastly mean to you? Defensively they are very similar. Shooting wise Harkless is a better percentage shooter by a decent margin. Covington scored more and rebounded a bit better this year but he also shot more than twice as many shots and played more minutes per game. Covington is a better ball handler but neither are what I would consider passing small forwards so what is he vastly superior at in your opinion? Mo is also 3 years younger.
     
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    I don't think we'll ever see Moe attempt 7 threes a game. That's just not his game.
    Where Roco has attempted 6+ every year he's been in the league. (outside of his rookie season when he only played in 7 games)
     
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    Just cause that is the more likely outcome doesn’t mean it’s the best thing to do. The status quoe has been inconsistent and mediocre so far, and you think it’s best to double down?
     
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    It may not be the best thing to do, I’m not saying my opinion is right. But yes, I believe in what’s being built. I believe in Zach Collins developing into an impact player. I believe in Harkless’ maturation. I believe in Terry’s ability to coach up players. Blowing it up now wouldn’t make much sense to me.
     
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    Neil really fucked this roster!
     
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    Anyways back on topic.

    Who’s excited for Wayne Ellington to be a Blazer I am.

    But on a serious note I think we need more veterans in the locker room. Guys like Gerald Henderson make more of an impact than we realize. Ellington and Vince would not only help on the court, but their impact would go beyond, especially Carter. The only real sounding board we have is Ed Davis, but our guards could use another guy that plays their position and can relate better.
     
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    So Fultz comes off the bench next year? I don't think Philly does that. I don't think they get rid of Covington.

    Edit: also, look at your lineup like you put it together on 2K. Who's gonna handle the ball besides Lillard? No one besides Lillard would have more than a 72 Ball Control.
     
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    Blazers need a completely new Offensive playbook. They need a Lot more passing to involve every Player and a faster pace. Just like the Raptors. To be honest we play the same ISO Basketball shit just like the Raptors from last years. Look at the Basketball the 76ers playing, that's so Great
     
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    Speaking of Gerald Henderson, he should be healed and cheap.
     
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    I’m for it, why not?
     
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    this
     
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    Because he's Gerald Henderson. I'm for adding couple vets - but let's get guys who actually have some experience and a body of work that exceed those experiences of our current players. Henderson doesn't have any experience that goes beyond Dame's (or even CJ's), nor does he have terrific fundamentals that he could teach to Dame (or CJ). Unless I'm totally blanking on him being a pivotal player on a Conference Finals team or a league-leader in assists or defense...
    Kaman at least had a body of work that he could use to help young bigs, even if he didn't have deep PO experience.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Sure can. He loves the Blazers. Sure the Shecocks won it all, but I guaranty you, he'd rather it been the Blazers.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Well thought out. I'd go for that if Kawhi can't be attained through trade.
     
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    You’re right it isn’t a coaching issue, it’s a talent issue. Unfortunately I think the roster above is on par or maybe slightly worse than our current one. We don’t need to switch out role/bench players for other role/bench players. The bench isn’t the problem. We need changes to the core, this most likely means CJ is gone. If we go into next season with the same starters as this year I will be disgusted. We are 1-11 in our last 12 playoff games, it’s time to rip it down to the foundation or take a chance on a blockbuster, treading water isn’t going to work.
     
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    And Stotts has made some horrible decisions in this series. I’d like to see Baldwin in the game with Dame, put him on Holiday and see if he still drops 30.
     
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    Paul Allen let the Hawks get dismantled this offseason, I could see him doing the same with the Blazers.
     
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    What means dismantled?
     
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    Trading CJ and Chief while hopefully attaching Hark/Meyers/or ET in those deals.

    Not resigning any of our free agents unless Nurk wants to sign in the 12-14 per range.

    Obtaining as much draft capital as possible in those deals

    And yes if these moves turn Dame off to the franchise trading him in his prime for hopefully a top 5-7 pick.

    That would classify as dismantled to me. Not saying i want this, just clarifying.
     
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    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    The Suns call the Blazers after this potential sweep. . .

    Suns 1st
    Heat 1st
    Warren
    Bender
    Knight

    For

    Lillard

    Who says no?
     

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