When you have the so called meat of the lineup batting .235 the argument about spot eight and nine doesn't matter much.
Whether Gardner batted 9th last year 2 years ago or when he was in little league don't mean a hill of shit to me. The point is is that it was unusual since the 9th hole is generally reserved for your worst hitter. Why do you think pitchers occupied that spot for decades prior to the DH. But I'll tell you what, since winning an argument isn't really all that important to me Ron, I concede victory to you. Have a good night.
...you can concede whatever you want as long as you admit you were wrong...for the THIRD fucking time, the NL has NOTHING to do with why Drew batted 8th instead of Prado in the last game. ...I've illustrated why it is done the way it is, and yet you still focus on the NL. I have also shown why someone like Garder has batted in the 9 spot 627 freaking times in his career, but using your logic that should imply that Gardner was the worst hitter on the team, but he obviously was not. ...and again for the THIRD time, Girardi, like other managers, try to stagger the line up so that he won't have as many instances of 2 or more consecutive LHed or RHed batters in the line up...and it's been that way for years. Like I said earlier, when you have 2 struggling hitters like Drew and Prado, why complain about which bats 8th or 9th?...what fucking difference does it really make? ...as usual, your blind disdain for Joe Girardi skews your judgment.
Holy shit Ron, I'll give you this much, right or wrong when you dig your heals in you don't budge. So just to show that I don't think you're completely wrong I'll give you this, deciding between a 170 hitter (Drew) or a 200 hitter (Prado) on who hits 8th or 9th (though Prado is clearly the better hitter) really shouldn't matter much. But with that said I'm not just talking about yesterday game regarding Girardi's questionable lineup order, I'm talking about Girardi's lineup since Drew joined the team. Now I'm going to go out on a limb here & say that you're probably the only one on the board here that doesn't see the correlation between Drew hitting 9th & the NL that I bring up. Which for the 3rd time I only mention to make a point. Pitchers now & for the most part ALWAYS have hit 9th in the order because they are the weakest hitters in the lineup & should get the least amount of times to hit. I'm sorry if you can't follow my reasoning for the comparison (To make a point) but again you're probably the only one. Stay with me here now, Drew is the weakest hitter in the Yankee lineup therefor he should get the least chances to hit (like NL pitchers) And yet the genius (please note I'm not calling him an idiot anymore) hasn't batted this anemic hitter 9th in ANY game he's played in (13 games). And he's only battered in the 8th spot 4 times. Girardi has actually battered him 7th & even 6th in 9 of the 13 games he's played. So sorry that lefty/righty bullshit theory of yours just goes out the window here. This is just pure stupidity. I mean seriously what fucking manager bats a 170 hitter 6th or even 7th? Now my head hurts from banging it against the wall, So since you're not a fan of being wrong & I really don't give a rats ass either way I'll just say again that I concede. Besides with the kind of weak hitting lineup that the Yankees have is it really important whether the teams worse hitter hits 9th, 8th, 7th (biting my tongue) or even (dare I say it) 6th? So to make your day......................I'M WRONG! So in other news how about that 13 year old girl pitching in the little league?
...lol...no shit. What do you think myself and other have been saying since this shitstorm started. If it really doesn't matter like you have FINALLY admitted, why did you make an issue out of it? ...as far as you asserting Drew should have as few as possible ABS, without his BB in the 5th inning yesterday, the Yanx probably lose that game. ...and you're still going with the irrelevant "NL" or "pitchers" thing?... last year ML pitchers had an OPS of .333 while Drew's OPS is .543 even as bad as he's been....for the FOURTH time, as bad as Drew has been at the plate, Prado has been nearly as bad. So again, why the hell are you whining about why Drew batted 8th instead of 9th?... Prado and Drew vs RHed pitching is a wash...if a LHed pitcher had started yesterday Drew probably would not have even played.
AGAIN!!! I'm not just talking about yesterdays game Your beloved can't do no wrong Girardi has been doing this with Drew since he joined the fucking team. Drew has never battered 9th & has only battered 8th 4 of 13 games. Sorry but Drew has no business hitting as high as 7th with a 170 average. And you have to be a complete brain dead moron to bat him 6th. Though I know you'll never admit that. God forbid Girardi ever does anything that can be questioned. Drew with his anemic batting average & being as close to a sure out as a pitcher would be should only be hitting 8th or 9th PERIOD!! Case closed. You're wrong, deal with it. And please don't come back with "But he battered 8th YESTERDAY so what's the problem" This subject is over.
...lmao...he batted 8th yesterday...so what's the problem? ...but oh, NOW you're also throwing in batting 6th and 7th into the equation?...way to keep things in context. It's really quite simple, if you go back and read, your original beef was why he was batting 8th instead of 9th YESTERDAY...I clearly explained to you why but you then went off on another tangent and brought up the "NL" as if that had anything to do with the topic...you then finally admitted your error by saying "is it really important whether the teams worse hitter hits 9th, 8th, 7th (biting my tongue) or even (dare I say it) 6th?" ...but here you are still whining about it...Jesus, make up your mind. ...without interjecting more irrelevant BS, can you please stay on topic and explain why your original beef was why Girardi batted Drew 8th instead of Prado...and why you somehow think it really matters?...seriously, do you even know?
Damn Ron this unhealthy obsession you have with Girardi has reached the level of comic relief at its finest. I mean holy shit man, I can only wish that I was as right about some things & you seem to believe Girardi is about everything. And I think I'll actually fall off my chair the day I hear you say anything negative about Joseph Girardi. I know its a tough pill to swallow but your idol is not beyond making a boo boo from time to time. And again this is not just about yesterday, I've been biting my tongue with your boys lineups since Drew came on board. Yesterday was just a response to another poster questioning yesterday's lineup. And if this is not clear enough for you I'm sorry. But I'm done with this.
...back up. I'm not the one with the "Girardi obsession"...you're the one who's incessantly blaming him for nearly everything that is wrong with this team...if you're not referring to him as "an idiot", you're referring to him as a "brain dead moron"...and he's neither. ...you're all over the place in this thread...first you have a problem with Drew batting 8th, then you say it "doesn't really matter"... after being told why the order was the way it was, you then decided to irrelevantly interject the NL for some unexplained reason...then after explaining away the poor comparison between Drew and the NL, you throw in "well, he shouldn't have batted 6th or 7th either" which had NOTHING to do with yesterday. ...now you claim for the THIRD time that you're "through" with this discussion, but you keep coming back for more. I seriously think you've said so many things in this thread that even you don't really recall what has been said. ...and unlike you, the reason I don't blindly bash Girardi at every opportunity is because he knows more about the game, this team, and its player than either of us, and he is privy to much more info than a bunch of message board posters, no matter how much they may think otherwise.
