Why the hell is Hillary still leading in delegates by 50-70 or so on some channels? Super delegate BS again? Obama has done even better than I expected though, he continues to build momentum and it seems like those Edwards people like him more.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Feb 5 2008, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Feb 5 2008, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>She might cry (again)</div> That only happens the day before a major primary. </div> Yeah. Cali & NY are small potatoes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 5 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why the hell is Hillary still leading in delegates by 50-70 or so on some channels? Super delegate BS again? Obama has done even better than I expected though, he continues to build momentum and it seems like those Edwards people like him more.</div> Its that Liberal bias shining through. lol. I'd bet the Faux news channel hopes Hillary wins it all so they can take aim at her for awhile.
I went in today at about 2pm, thinking I'd be voting for McCain, but they told me I could only vote for a Democrat since I was registered within their party. So I ended up voting for Obama, whose books I've read and think highly of. (but I'll still vote for McCain for president)
Missouri is going to go down to every last vote and likely have a recount. I have Clinton leading by 567 votes right now before 3 counties with no basis on, so that can easily get skewed towards Obama.
Recently, on MSNBC, Chuck Todd (a political guru) said that Obama has approx 590 delegates and Hillary 540. This, I think, includes a split in CA. What does & doesn't surprise me is Obama won here in Utah. Its funny as Barack was recently cited as the most liberal senator and Hillary 18th. HRC carries alot of baggage and Bill too. As a Utah native, I still have no clue as to what drives the collective mindset of the dominant culture here.
I never latched on to any of people running for presidency this year. By process of elimination Obama's going to be the person I vote for. I'm hoping Obama comes through for the Dems.
I'm watching Obama's speech and loved that bit about hoping for the different results with the same players and he's calling out the lobbyists too. It's a shame it won't be Obama v Paul or even Huckabee... the general election might actually be about ideas & solutions instead sniping & mudslinging.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 5 2008, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I never latched on to any of people running for presidency this year. By process of elimination Obama's going to be the person I vote for. I'm hoping Obama comes through for the Dems.</div> Same here. Not a big fan of anyone, but he's tolerable in my book.
How it works. Both parties have a national convention at the end of August. Each state has a republican and democrat primary or caucus to elect delegates who'll represent the state at the party's convention. The delegates are obligated to vote for the candidate who won the primary/caucus, but only for the first ballot at the convention - after that, they are free to vote as they see fit. Republican primaries are, for the most part, winner-take-all. That is, the guy who gets the plurality (most) votes gets all the delegates. The Democrats have most primaries where the delegates are elected on a precinct-by-precinct basis. Thus, a person can win 60% of the votes but the delegates can be split 50-50. There are a fixed number of delegates for each party. The number needed to win the party's nomination is a known quantity. Once a candidate gets that many delegates, the rest of the primary schedule is mostly meaningless. At the convention, the nominee is voted on and then there's about 8 weeks for the two parties to campaign for the presidency. The president is elected by delegates to the electoral college. It's like a senate or house of representatives that is formed after the election is done, they cast their votes, and then it's dissolved. The electors are won on a state-by-state basis in the general election, winner take all. 271 electoral votes are needed to win. In 2000, Bush won 271+ electoral votes even though Gore had more votes nationwide - the popular vote is only meaningful in the state-wide tallies. There are rules for what happens if nobody gets 271+ votes, but I won't get into that here. There are many 3rd parties, including the Libertarians and the Green Party. They all have their own caucuses/primaries and a convention and nominate their candidate. It's rare that any 3rd party candidate gets any electoral votes, though they might get quite a few popular votes (Ross Perot got like 19% of the vote but no electoral votes in 1992). The rules for getting on the ballot in all 50 states are ridiculously hard, and the two parties have no incentive to ease the rules to allow the 3rd parties on the stage. It is how it is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Feb 5 2008, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Apparently she's getting all the Latino and Asian votes. Obama getting all the white and black ones.</div> yeah from what I talked to some of my family they voted for Clinton, there racist.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 6 2008, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who the hell is endorsing Hillary in California? Currently she's leading 55% to Obama's 33%</div> Early voting is what has been counted so far. Look at how high Edwards numbers are. Mitt Romney to drop out tomorrow probably.
Everyone but my brother is voting for Obama in my household (and we're a Republican household traditionally). My brother is voting for Mitt Romney because he's dumb.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bynumite @ Feb 6 2008, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Feb 5 2008, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Apparently she's getting all the Latino and Asian votes. Obama getting all the white and black ones.</div> yeah from what I talked to some of my family they voted for Clinton, there racist. </div> I heard Obama pretty much wins every age category overall except for people over 50. Makes you think, huh? Yeah that's right.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 6 2008, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who the hell is endorsing Hillary in California? Currently she's leading 55% to Obama's 33%</div> You did go to Berkeley right? Fuggin Bay Area pisses me off sometimes.
Obama is favored in the next 6 primaries. It's all good. Lol, why do they say she has so much more experience? Anyone can hire a clown-experienced vice president or cabinet member anyway.
