Supreme Court ruling legalizes sports betting

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I can see it both ways, but this is not an issue of "freedom", this is about money plain and simple. You were always capable of calling up your buddy and saying bet you 50 bucks x team covers the spread on saturday. All this does is allows states and businesses to profit from it.
     
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    Lol. They'll never allow that.
     
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    Along with alcoholics in my life I've had close relatives with serious gambling problems.

    People ought feel free to make their own decisions until it starts ruining lives.
     
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    It makes it a lot easier to gamble and lose the rent money.
     
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    It does and honestly I have only ever "gambled" once and it was because the cruise ship gave me a free 10 dollar coupon at the casino, I turned it into 100 bucks and got out of there.
    I'm not really in favor of gambling at all, but my own personal morals, or whatever we'd like to call them, well I don't think you can force those on people. It sucks that this type of thing can destroy someone's life, but there are a plethora of things that can do that.
    Like I said i do see it both ways, I'm not surprised at all. The states and Leagues see this as another huge revenue source, and I suppose if people are willing to basically just throw money at them then I guess that's the free market?
     
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    But is the legalization of sports gambling gonna make a difference? There's many ways to gamble, so what's the legalization of sports betting going to change?
     
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    I'm in favor of government not creating legislator based on arguable and debatable morals. Obviously, murder, rape, etc. are undoubtedly awful and immoral, and that's not arguable. So emphasis debatable. For morals to be considered debatable, it takes common sense, no thrrat/pain caused, and usually a large faction of people on both sides of the argument. With that being said, why should debatable morals be decided for a group of people? If you dont gamble, fine, thats your choice. Because you dont like gambling and don't want to, why should others not be allowed to?

    Therefore, it should be legal. I feel like our country is slowly moving that direction and I applaud it.
     
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    Will it stomp out gambling? No, of course not. But it will attenuate it significantly and that's better than letting it run unchecked.
     
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    Just because there are a plethora of ways to destroy lives doesn't mean we should add yet another.

    If you had gone through what I went through you'd oppose it too. My mother probably lost about a Million dollars with the advent of video poker. She used to gamble in the high rollers section of Spirit Mountain. One time she was gambling on a $5 machine. I said "Mom, do you realize you're betting $15 with each pull of the handle?" Her reply was "Let me play this off". So she lost another hundred bucks or so before I could pull her off the machine. The management debated throwing me out because I was interfering with their fleecing of my mother.

    I also have a sister-in-law and her husband who have lost more than the value of your home gambling, mostly in Indian casinos but also at Dotty's and video poker.

    Gambling makes me sick to my stomach.
     
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    Why would sports leagues get anything?

    They don't now
     
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    I don't believe it would, and you also gotta allow people to make decisions for themselves, for better or worse.
     
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    It will to the kids who don't have food on the table because dad lost gambling on a game...where there's gambling, there's usually a guy named Vito who will break a few ankles on payday...I don't see any benefit to legalizing sports gambling.
     
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    I agree @riverman ! I also agree with @BonesJones that people should be responsible enough to make their own choices, but past experiences show us time and time again that a large number of people are not able to make the responsible choice and it does hurt other people.

    There are plenty of illegal bookies out there now which people place bets through. If it becomes legal, it makes it much easier for the normal person who doesn't have a bookie or is scared off by doing something illegal to now do it. I think it will definitely increase the number of people gambling on sports. My mother was not a gambling addict until the State of Iowa passed a law allowing casinos to be built. Once there was a casino nearby, she started gambling and was addicted quickly. It never would have happened if the local casino was never built.
     
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    I didn’t even realize it was fully illegal over there.

    Can’t imagine something like this in Europe, in the UK sports betting is basically common among all young people and you have bookies at every corner.

    I used to enjoy an occasional accumulator, not anymore since they put a tax on them in Poland and you need to pay 12% on all winning and 10% on everything above $500 - makes it hard to break even let alone profit.

    It’s done for fun and to enjoy games more mostly here though. I do know a few people who have lost a significant amount of money but 99% of those who have ever placed sports bets have done small amount wagers for fun and to profit from their knowledge about the sport.

    Sports betting is somewhere between the stock exchange (trying to profit from odds that are too high sometimes) and genuine gambling (when you go for multiple selections at high odds it’s up to pure chance often).
     
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    We don't let a lot of people do whatever they want even if it doesn't directly affect any of us, and for good reason.
     
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    I gotta agree with Lanny on this one... although I like to occasionally wager on sports, I have seen it destroy lives... it’s scary to think of what can happen to people with easy access such as betting on a phone app
     
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    My mother never gambled illegally. However, she lost more than a ton of money gambling legally. She lost the better part of a $4 Million estate, left to her by my father and my brother, on legal gambling.

    My brother-in-law was a very successful software engineer who lost all of his IRA money by gambling. Every penny of it is gone forever. All he's got is social security for he and his wife plus Medicare and a tiny pension his wife gets from Tektronix plus a house that's paid off.

    I've known others that had gambling problems but I lost touch with them before I was able to see the end result. I can only guess what happened.

    It would take a long time to lose $100 in the lottery but my mother could lose that much in 1 minute of pulling the handle on a slot machine.

    I'm gonna use my one vote to vote no on every gambling issue even the lottery which I consider virtually harmless.

    If you want to gamble, go to Vegas. That's what I say.

    My wife likes to gamble but she gambles with very little money and usually wins. Meanwhile, I sit in the hotel room until she comes to get me by saying "Let's go to the buffet because I've won enough to pay for it."

    I think I did bet $10 on the Blazers once. That's the extent of my betting.
     
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    I don't believe in day trading but at least it takes some skill and not plain luck. Of course, I'm talking about the long run.

    My wife and I have done very well in the Stock Market but we buy stocks and hold onto them for years before selling them. I usually let my financial advisor do all the work and only see him once or twice a year. Even then, we picked a highly reputable advisor over a decade ago and like him very well. He tells us how his wife, children and mother are doing. We take turns taking each other out to lunch and consider it lucky for us when it's our turn. That's the way to invest in the Stock Market.
     
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