OT Taiwan

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    They rewrote the history books when Lee Tung Huei became president...he was the first Taiwanese president without being a mainlander from China....Chiang Kai Shek was a brutal dictator...that's no longer true there...they've always fought in parliament...
     
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    I've always said that if China thinks Taiwan is part of China then why do Taiwanese tourists in China get treated as foreigners by the govt and passport authorities?
     
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    Yes, this was obvious to me on day 1 of Russias invasion of Ukraine. I think after month 1 of the invasion though the likelihood of China attacking Taiwan within the next few years has decreased substantially though. The poor performance of Russias military has proven that even big military budgets, and expensive hardware aren’t the only thing that matters in warfare.

    Any reasonable observer should be making that same observation, China hasn’t had a war to test its military performance in decades. So any invasion could become a huge embarrassment if it does not go well, so I would think Xi Jin Ping would be wise enough to wait quite a while longer until he were to pull the trigger on that.
     
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    China can't take Taiwan. They'll have to obliterate it. Taiwan has had a nuclear program since the 70s and will have a nuke ready to launch before China can mount an invasion.

    Just getting across the moat to Taiwan would cost China over 1 million soldiers... And they don't have enough vessels to do that.

    Taiwan is a far more prepared force than Ukraine and for more easily defended.
     
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    I've said this before, but it's ridiculous how long people hold onto territorial grudges. It was 73 years ago that the then-Chinese government fled to Taiwan. Anyone who was a part of that is past 90 years old now. But somehow they've convinced their kids and grandkids to continue to be angry about it.

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    Actually Taiwan is the largest investor in the Chinese manufacturing sector....Taiwan always said it will win the war with China with economics, not weapons. As it is the best thing the world could do is to vote Taiwan back into the United Nations and reinstall their embassies there...I'm disappointed they are pampering China over Taiwan's status
     
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    Agreed. There is nothing at all that China could do besides start WW3. Or just completely level Taiwan... Which would be even dumber than Russia leveling Ukraine.

    If the world sanctioned China the way we've sanctioned Russia there would be half as many Chinese in a year.
     
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    4 letters on why I don't think Taiwan will ever be invaded by China; TSMC
     
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    Since the Ukranian invasion the Pacific Rim allies are circling the wagons around China Russia and North Korea as well as Iran......the last administration opened the floodgates for those 4 countries to become aggressive military threats in the region....now between Australia, US, India, Phillipines, Japan and South Korea...there is a buffer allliance that will make China hesitant to worldwide sanctions such as Russia has been faced with. Taiwan should be a part of the Pacific Alliance but until they are recognized....they sit in cold war limbo politically ...Invaders have to play offense and defense but defenders can put all their military concentration on defense.....that's what Ukraine did and it worked. I'm glad Joe said we'd fight for Taiwan if they invaded. it's not just the island...it's the Pacific Rim that needs to assure that China and Russia don't expand there
     
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    They've been doing that since our Navy started using the Taiwan Strait ...actually they've also done this every time Taiwan has held a presidential election....sabre rattling is what they do
     
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    WTF?
    I'm speechless at this. Unbelievably moronic.
     
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    This should be translated as the GNP and all our investors do not want to lose a billion Chinese customers and workers...Taiwan only has 23 million so ......that's the population of Canada or Australia......not major movers and shakers in the international trade game! The whole world needs to collectiviely call China's bluff on Taiwan and vote them into the UN...fuck China
     
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