Taurean Prince? Rumor

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Dreaming if Moe was able to be traded despite his knee injury...

    Sacramento gets Harkless, 2019 2nd round pick from Atlanta (worse of their 3)

    Atlanta gets Meyers, Swanigan, and a future 1st from Portland (lottery protected)

    Portland gets Prince, Lin, and Koufos

    We dump a ton of money this summer while adding Prince for next year and getting two vets to help us this year. I could definitely get behind something like this.
     
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    I wouldn't trade him this season for that reason and also that I think he's a great bench SF for the future..I have no problem keeping Mo through his current contract....there are other guys who have gained trade value this season that could bring in a player. Teams will balk at Mo...unless they are the Knicks...I'd love to build this team keeping Mo and Chief with the second unit.
     
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    I know but if he wasn't hurt he probably wouldn't have negative value.
     
  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    If we wasn't hurt, we'd probably keep him.
     
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    True, but the last few years with the Blazers every player traded away was made because of cap reasons. Switching Moe for Prince is almost an $8 million difference for next season plus if they add a vet like Lin that could help the 2nd unit this year it is definitely something they'd consider.
     
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    I can't gauge how much he means for the locker room; not sure that's a big factor with Dame around

    his measurables on the court are not good when compared to the team. 9th in PER; 11th in winshares/48; 9th in box plus/minus; 9th in value over replacement; and a defensive rating worse than the team. He may appear to have a bigger impact because he has the ball in his hands so much. Lin could replace that though

    but, you may be right about Olshey's POV though.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Wouldn't this indicate the exact opposite of what you said?

    He's only 25...
     
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    Yeah I know he can be replaced and I don’t care too much about the locker room stuff, but I’m trying to look at it through that morons eyes.
     
  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    That's pretty old for a guy in only his third year in the league. Dame is one of the exceptions, but players usually peak by then. No contradictions.
     
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    So has Layman peaked?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    He's barely played-- we don't know what Layman can do yet. Prince has played in a 162 games on a career average of 25 mpg. Apples-oranges.

    When was the last time a mediocre player took a monumental leap after the age of 25? Gerald Wallace is the only guy that comes to mind really. Jimmy Butler too perhaps. It doesn't happen too frequently
     
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    Good one. Now what will all those Bostonians who call themselves Irish do?
     
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    Steve Nash...?
     
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    Dinwiddie? I don’t know, I’ve just always had an issue with arbitrary cut offs for development. Everyone’s different. Situation matters too. I’d love to see what Prince could do playing with Dame and Nurk.
     
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    Sure, and Steph too to an extent although the signs were there with him.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Sure, but my point remains. He's no spring chicken.

    Oladipo is maybe another who popped after people had written him off.
     
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    Prince will be 25 but he is still only 24 and has only played 2 1/2 seasons in the NBA. He could very well improve.
     
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    I think you're confused how this works.
     
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    Lol. No it's not.

    You just said Nurk is only 5 months younger.

    He's on his 5th season in the league and still getting better.

    Dame gets better every year. I fully expect him to be better next year too.

    I just don't think what you're trying to say is right.
     
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    Prince is 24 years old...
     
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