Ted Cruz, so whaddya think?

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  1. Denny Crane

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    I'm not sure why you say 'wrong', and then mention a bunch of things that don't disagree with anything I said.

    Ability to vote isn't identical to citizenship. Neither is representation in congress.

    Dred Scott says you are wrong about different kinds of citizens.

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    Why not just answer my question? Do you think you can be a natural born citizen and at the same time not be a citizen?

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    Like I said, there were different classes of citizenship.

    Even free black people didn't have the same rights as other citizens.

    Dred Scott was the law of the land for 4 years, much later than the time of the founders.
     
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    I'm guessing the capital would be renamed, Pokerville?
     
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    Hillary is very lucky. She used to look decent, but now she's running on old looks. Her luck is that Republicans have even uglier candidates, like Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush.

    They got nobody, nobody who can beat Hillary on looks. I'm serious. That makes her the next President. If I ran as a Republican, I could save the party.
    Boehner's their best looker. With that permanent tan, he could run as an Hispanic. Where is the sunny spot in Washington, D.C. he has found to lounge in the winter? He doesn't oil his skin in the shower, does he?
     
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    It wasn't a case of 'judicial activism', however. It affirmed the intent of the founding fathers - after the tides had turned against that intent.
    Indeed, it was the epitome of conservative jurisprudence - an attempt to drag the country back into the previous century.

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    Cruz is the Richard Nixon of our era - pandering to the right to get votes, an attention monger to jump to the front of the line, smart and savvy, cunning.

    I can't stand him, but I have to admit he's dumb like a fox. Very calculated.
     
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    He is quite bright. I'm looking forward to him tearing the other republican candidates to shreds in the debates, if they have any.

    He's also possibly the most unlikeable presidential candidate in the past 40 years. Americans voted for W. because they wanted to have a beer with him. Will they vote for Cruz because they want to punch him in the face?

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    Aw geez, why must you ask what you should read?

    Well, let me put it this way, everyone is a citizen of some where, a natural born one also. As I recall, citizenship can be revoked by a country but it can not be revoked by the county where you are a Natural born citizen.

    So your question poses an invalid circumstance.
     
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    It wasn't codified until 75 years after the founding of the nation. The founders were dead. The founders' intent was to do away with slavery.
     
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    Cruz can go pound sand.
     
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    They are still dead, and the prospects for reanimation are dim. So maybe we should give up on this 'founder's intent' nonsense.

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    The founding father intended for 13 colonies, not 50. We have 37 states of dead weight.
     
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