Texas Gov Rick Perry Indicted

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  1. Denny Crane

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    It makes the indictment a sham. Makes this ethics unit look like it's about revenge and partisanship.

    The moral is don't back down and you'll be even more popular. He's even gained support from the likes of Axelrod, after all.
     
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    He didn't push any envelope. All appearances are that he felt the head of the ethics office could no longer be seen as ethical due to being convicted of a real crime and jail time that went with it.

    Perry has every right to run for president. Like you, I wouldn't vote for him, but clearly democrats are scared enough of him to do this petty thing.
     
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    Depends on whether any laws were actually broken.

    Partisanship definitely dominates which politicians each party wants to indict, sue or impeach. The solution is not to commit any crimes. I'm not saying Perry has or hasn't--I have no idea and I don't much care. If he hasn't, presumably that's what the courts will find.
     
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    Yes...Democrats are frightened of a Republican politician that even a committed conservative like you wouldn't vote for.
     
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    I didn't say he doesn't have a right to run for president. Just like the special prosecutor had every right to bring a case to a grand jury and the grand jury had eery right to bring charges against Rick Perry. This isn't about rights. For me, this is about if Rick Perry would be a good republican presidential candidate.

    I disagree that he didn't push the envelope. He just got indicted. So whatever appearances you think his actions had, a grand jury did not agree with you.

    And you make it sound like Axelrod said the indictment was a sham, he didn't say that. He said it was sketchy (even qualifying that saying he doesn't know all the facts), meaning to me at the very least Perry pushed the envelope. While others are calling for his resignation based on the indictment. There is a whole legal process to go and have this played out where we might even be able to see all the evidence involved here (not like we went through hundreds of pages and spoke to 40 witnesses)

    You bring up an interesting point, there will be some irony here if Perry is convicted of a real crime and jail time that goes with it.
     
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    I would vote for him. He just is not my first choice.

    I still can't imagine how it is possible to indite a sitting Governor for vetoing a spending bill.
    When vetoing a bill in not a valid choice for a Governor, the position of Governor is redundant for any purpose except pose as a political target.
     
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    He is being accuse of using his veto power to run someone out of office.

    There has got to be a better republican candidate. I think a republican will win this next election unless the party make a huge mistake. Perry would be too much of a risk, IMO.
     
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    Amen, Perry is a bonehead. The GOP deserves better, despite how boneheaded they've become.
     
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    So in that system, it is only valid to sign the bill or the opposition can indite? That is utter bull shit.

    There are several better Republican candidates, but zero Democrats.
     
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    No, as I generally understand it, it is improper to tell an elected official if you don't resign I am going to use my veto power to cut your funding.

    The democrats will have some good candidates, but they are running in the shadow of Obama. I see it as it's the republican party's presidency to win or lose . . . but that is my gut feeling rather knowing what the polls are out there about Obama . . . which could all change in a year anyways.
     
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    Lillard for President!
     
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    Sketchy means the indictment is weak. Axelrod elaborated on why.
     
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    WTF? How can it be improper for a Govenror to veto a spending bill? It doesn't fucking matter what you think the reason is.

    There is not a democrat that I consider good. Sure none that would get my vote. When Nixion ran, I did vote for JFK but that was back when Dems were closer to Republicans of today. The second time Nixon ran, I voted for Ralph Nader or some other throw away vote candidate. Couldn't bring myself to vote Democrat after having Johnson for President. Carter finished the lesson. Obama has topped it off, never be sucked in by a democrat.
     
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    He wasn't indicted for vetoing the bill.

    Your argument is akin to: Driving is legal, I have a valid license, therefore I cannot be charged for murder for running over my ex-wife.

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    Not improper for a governor to veto a spending bill. Improper for a governor to threaten someone.

    I figure you are someone who votes along party lines. I get that. Do you want Rick Perry as the republican nominee? I think you might like paul Ryan who is a serious candidate for the nominee. Chris Christie jumps out to me . . . but I haven't really looked at it much.
     
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    Vetoes and veto threats are always to coerce other politicians.

    How many times did you run over your wife?
     
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    It puts the lotion on its skin so it won't stick to my bumper again.
     
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    Not to resign their positions, no.

    Just 3.

    barfo
     
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    And none of them were even really crimes because your enemies (the relatives of your wives) checked the laws to find your crime, proving how biased they were.
     

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