The reason Cleveland, LA, Denver, Boston and to an extent, Orlando, are good teams is because they have the blue collar players to make them more physical then the rest of the league. Every team has guys that can score. The question is, do they have to tough guys to bang, play physical D, rebound and generally make life miserable for their opposition. That's why I was laughing about that Juwan Howard article and how players were kind of shocked about how physical and tough he plays. The reason they are shocked, is because they just don't get it. Physical wins. Pussies lose.
blue collar my ass... roy and la dont score as easy as superstars should roy works hard for every point. melo, kobe, durant do it effortlessly. roy is a great player but hes not elite. durant, melo, kobe, lebron is elite and thats what wins in the nba.
All of them work at it man. Don't tell me those guys don't work hard for their points, they surely do. They are just a talent level above the rest. But they won't win shit without the guys backing them up. If talent is all that is needed, why did Kobe take years to win a ring on his own without Shaq? Why hasn't Lebron won a ring yet? He obviously has more talent than anybody else in the league, but according to you that is all it takes. You have to have a blend of scorers and toughness to win at the elite level. If you have no guys to do the blue collar work, you just have a scorer out there with a bunch of chumps.
Well, IMO, Pippen was also a franchise superstar. He just happened to be alongside the GOAT. You're quite optimistic if you think Roy will also be one of the thirty greatest players ever. More like Roy will be the Kevin Martin to Oden's Bowie.
Roy IS elite - but he does not score effortlessly! Roy needs an elite PF playing next to him....and LA is NOT elite. LA is our biggest problem: No hussle, no "D" and I really question his heart. He's got no game-face whatsoever.
well then if thats true... we have a major fuckin problem. and it doesnt change what i said... no title for these pretenders
I don't disagree! about not winning a title with this group. I won't go as far as calling them "pretenders" like you do Mix, but we do indeed have a major problem; Aldridge is and will be our major problem. With him, we'll never be able to land an elite PF. We should have attempted a trade (along with Rudy) to Toronto to land Bosh. Roy's game, alongside Bosh, is what we need to add to this group to have any chance at a championship in my opinion. Miller Roy Batum Bosh Oden (if ever healthy) would not be a group of "pretenders." PS: I think Webster needs to move on too. And although Bayless obviously has "talents" - he's not going to ever be an elite PG.
this summer the blazers need to stop hoping for greatness from average players. A guy like Cunningham is a greta example. Decent player for a team like bobcats. For a team who wnats to go somewhere. Not the answer. We need a banger at PF who can score easy buckets. Bayless... We need a PG of future and it aint him. Webster...Batum starting has killed him. Time to move him thi summer. Package Bayless and Webster... get a difference maker and then get a good player with the lotto pick.
"Bayless and Webster are worthless junk. Trade them for an impact player." I like your reasoning. I have no idea why you get a bum rap around here.
still clueless. what did the mavs give up for butler & hayward? NOTHING. What did the cavs give up for jamison? nothing. its called a good gm. one minute half the board jerks off to bayless, the next minute hes not a good trading piece lol? and you call me mixed up? really? also websters contract is great.
Yes, yes you are... Please go cheer for another team, it is obvious this team does not satisfy you and we will never win a Championship ever. Going away may just be your best option.
Equally good players in Howard and Gooden. What's called a good GM? You're the one both saying he's not a good player and saying he should be traded for an impact player. So, really. Yes. You're a little mixed up. Not to worry, it happens. "He sucks, but he's paid reasonably for sucking. GREAT TRADE PIECE." Can I subscribe to your newsletter?
Their nothing was better than our nothing. Despite what many feel about him, Josh Howard is still better than every SF on the Portland roster added together into one player. As for Cleveland, yep they did get Jamison for nothing. The nothing of an expiring contract. We didn't have contract that size to offer up.
Both trades you mentioned were for 10+ million dollar expiring contracts for this big free agency summer, so yes the mavs and cavs did give up something and in return got value. You claim Webster is crap and isn't even a rotation level player, if that's true then it's retarded to say making 5million a year for at least another 2 seasons is a great contract.
There is more wrong with Roy than just his hamstring. This years Roy is not last years and the year before Brandon Roy. He exudes disinterest and often he looks like a guy that struggles to have fun out there. Like this has become work rather than something that is enjoyable for him. I have noticed this all year long. Not sure what might be the problem.
You love jumping to conclusions, I cant wait till mass earthquakes in 2012, and then there is no titles for anyone including our atrocious star players.
You're right. Anthony: 5-21, 4 rebounds, 1 assist. http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200912070PHI.html Bryant: 4-21, 5 rebounds, 1 assist http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201001100LAL.html Durant: 4-18, 4 rebounds, 2 assists http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200912160OKC.html Roy: 3-14, 5 rebounds, 5 assists
