That stupid switching scheme on Dirk

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  1. Tunchi

    Tunchi Well-Known Member

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    I warned you guys in the game thread before tip off this was going to KILL US.

    My theory is Stotts just banks on the fact MAYBE Dirk will have an off day against us
     
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    I didnt quote most, and maybe missed someone post a solution, but this...

    This is what frustrates me around here. Neither of you provided an alternative... an answer....

    It maybe indeed be a problem, but unless you have an answer, maybe give Stotts a bit of slack that he may not have the answer yet either, oor maybe his answer was goign to be Leonard on him out in the perimeter because Dirk is slow. Many things you gfuys dont know and unless your goingto follow these up with a solution... your just wasting your breath and feeding the negativity that might very well be invalid...

    This thread sucks....
    Not one solution... just a bunch of bitching from wannabe coaches complaining....
     
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    Strenuus Well-Known Member

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    Yet, when you're wrong, you never admit it. It makes the told you so's mean nothing.
     
  4. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    If you read beyond the first post you would have seen that. Stotts DID switch it up in the 4th, finally by hedging on the guards and having Aminu recover back on Dirk, which he did, and got us back into this game.

    I actually quite like Stotts. My one complaint is that he's too stubborn to make in game adjustments when his philosophy isn't working. This is just one manifestation of that.
     
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    I did read beyond the first post. Got half way through. If you notice I quoted two posts, so I had to have read past the first post...

    But then I started getting sick rereading the same dribble of hate without a mention of what he could/should be doing.

    To post an observation of what he did, a change, is not providing a solution or an alternative... it is merely noting that Stott's changed things up. I think you missed the point of my post.

    It wasn't that we inaccurately reported what Stott's did. Its that we report with an obvious air of negativity while not providing anything positive to feed off of.

    This happens waaaayyy too often around here and I am always reminded of a scene from my favorite show ever... West Wing

    "Don't come to me with a problem if you don't have a solution... don't come to me with half a thing... if your smart enough to observe a problem then start working on the answer... don't just stop and bitch...."
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    No coach in the league has the job security that Pop does. These guys (Terry included) have to go all out to win.
     
  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    How's that any different from what you do on this forum? I don't think you have any grasp of this place and what a fan message board is. If we all had solutions to every team problem, we wouldn't be here in front of computer screens.
     
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  8. Orion Bailey

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    Do I really need to acknowledge this with a response?....
    Sigh... okay....


    Show me where I bitch about the team with negativity, but don't provide solutions/alternatives in a positive manner?

    Id like you to find one post you can quote....If you want to quote me... then quote me...

    I may not provide alot of stats like some, but I try to keep from bitching without having a solution... That's why sometimes ill not post in threads.. I don't have an answer or a solution so why bitch about it? Plenty of people already do that around here....
     
  9. Orion Bailey

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    The switching of Dirk....

    Ill need to go back and watch tape(I dont think I deleted),

    But here is what comes to my thought first...
    What outside perimeter big do we have that you would put on Dirk?
    Aminu seemed to do okay when I saw him on Dirk.

    I think Stott's wasnt prepared for this game based on him thinking Leonard would be the guy yo put on Dirk. Obviously hat fell to the waste side with Meyers dislocating his shoulder. And yes I know this was like 4 days prior to the game, but what is the alternative?

    So they run the picknroll, and we are switching and that puts Dame on Dirk. Who was Dame switching with? Vonleh? Davis? Plums?

    How do we know that Stotts didnt tell Plums he needs to stick with Dirk, but Plums didnt, and Dame was just doing everything he can, like normal, even though he gets burned?

    I would like to hear some of the thoughts, reason why Stotts does what he does, and solutions to changing the game, from some of you who are so apt to just beat Stott's down...

    No I dont want to read, he does what he does because he is an idiot.. that will just prove the poster is the actual idiot...

    Come on.. I challenge some of you to keep it on the up and up and discuss at length viable solutions to what you think Stotts is failing at...
     
  10. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I wonder if you even watched the first game they played in Portland....
     
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  11. Orion Bailey

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    I did, but that was a while back and like I said, Id have go check tape..

    I wonder if you read the posts through and through? ;)
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Are you freaking kidding me? The answer is to not switch, hence, us getting back into the game when they finally decided to stop switching in the 4th quarter. I thought the obvious undertone was implied by most of the posts here. The fact that Stotts FINALLY stopped switching after 7 quarters of playing against the Mavericks is an indictment of his defensive schemes against the Mavericks. It shouldn't have taken him 7 quarters to realize his defensive scheme was completely flawed.
     
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    Good job warning us of something we all knew was going to happen, since it's been happening for years.
     
  14. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Then you clearly aren't responding in the context of this thread.
     
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    OMG. I thought the answer to not switch was implied too, but we didn't get BACK into that Dallas game. We had the lead and lost it. My point is... How to stop the switch...
    Maybe I wasn't clear and that's my error. Yes... dont switch.. I thought that was the obvious too. But how to not switch and still be successful;? I didnt see that...

    Play it out. Ill play it out this evening when I get home and have more time to explain myself.

    My point is, its easy to sit here and berate and say things need to be fixed.. but HOW.. Yes.. Again its easy to SAY dont switch... but line it out.. what happens then? I dont think we are fouling these thoughts out to completion and if we did I think we would hit walls the same Stott's has as to a VIABLE solution. To not switch, doesnt always work and I will explain why this evening.
     
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    Perfect. I got my desired result.....................;)

    They are commonly used to show a pause in speech it it were a verbal format and not a textual one...those who are annoyed, probably don't understand that. But being such an expert of message boards, I would think most here would know.

    Dude.. everyone has nitche's, quirks... whatever... but keep nitpicking and I will continue to blast those that blast without any EXPLAINED, VIABLE solutions. ;)
     
  18. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    I agree with Orion about not bitching unless you can offer up a solution.
    So, here's mine and it's hardly original, since most great defensive teams like SA do it. It's not rocket surgery.

    Our failure comes from lack of intuition/recognition on the part of our players as individuals and as a unit of team defense.
    If Dallas sets a screen and Tony Parker ends up on Dirk, would the Spurs stand there and let Dirk back him down? Hell no, they would either hard double immediately or bluff that, which they are really good at, making Dirk make a decision fast, probably giving the ball up, and the critical part is the rest of the team busts their ass to rotate for damage control.

    We haven't seen this too much from the Blazers. It only takes one unmotivated or clueless teammate to fuck it up.
     
  19. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    They started jumping the ball handler and having Aminu recover back on Dirk, which he did well during the 4th. That's how we cut a double digit deficit and had a chance to win the game (which we should have won). Aminu had a couple of brain farts in OT, but the inherent strategy worked.

    In the first game, Blazers had a double digit lead in the 4th and the Mavs were able to come back by having Dirk abuse Lillard in the post. Stotts never adjusted that game and that's why we lost.
     
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    So because your a fan, its okay to wipe reasoning off the table? I didnt say we have the slolutions, but how about at least trying to think of something? It might help you understand Stott's position?

    I understand full well how a message board works. Dont use it as an excuse to not think for ourselves... come on...

    IM a member of the forum so I can just bitch and thats what forums are for and ... blah blah blah...

    Forums are just that... a forum. What is a forum?


    Full Definition of forum
    plural forums also fo·ra court

    • 3a : a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussionb : a program (as on radio or television) involving discussion of a problem usually by several authorities.

    Notice it says usually by authorities? ;)

    If you prefer to be that nonsensical fan led by rage and emotion great. I know I can get there myself.. but I don't pride myself in it. I pride myself in trying to maintain a level head regardless of wins or losses.

    Forums are for discussions... not bitch fests....


    oops.... I used too many ellipses again.....sigh...
     

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