The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I know it's reactionary. Fun week of games tho
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Regarding Ant, worst case he ups his trade value.... Maybe some team will really value him and give us someone good.
     
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    Yeah this was just one fun game but the truth is that if the team is going to stick with Dame they should cash in whatever value that Ant has built and will build between now and next month. They also need to trade every player that doesn't fit with Dame and do it by this trade deadline.
     
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    no doubt the games have been entertaining. Losses may be more valuable at this stage of the season though. It's hard to tank effectively when you have players like Ant, Nurkic, RoCo, Nas...and McLemore has been something else too. Besides that, you can't expect the Blazers to just hand the game to the other team. The Kings and Nets had their chances and they brought defense that was just as bad as Portland's and missed buckets of easy shots
     
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    that would probably be better than some team valuing him as a free agent and making a 20M/year offer sheet
     
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    Anyone we could get for Simons will be much older. Is that what we really want? I don't think so. No one is going to give you equivalent value at the same age. Anyone trying to make a move for him will likely be trying to trade older vets and going for a rebuild. I think Norm, CJ, Nurk, Roco, Nance is enough pieces to get something really good back.
     
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    unless we’re trading dame we are gonna be trying to win next year. We’re not gonna trade all our vets, it’s just not realistic. That said, I doubt Ant gets traded.
     
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    Players averaging at least 18ppg on at least 45% FG and 39% 3PT

    Lavine
    Wiggins
    Bojan
    Powell

    There were also two bigs that qualified but I left them out because they’re not relevant to my point that Powell would be one of the most valuable guards/wings if/when made available.
     
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    Only if the Blazers can build a contender around Dame soon. If not, than trading away the best young asset the team has in Simons is stupid. The team can rebuild with Dame as the only "win now" player.

    Maybe in an ideal world its better for a rebuild to trade away Dame, but if there is an ultimatum from Dame/ownership/management that he stays put that is fine, the team should not sacrifice long term assets unless short term contention is realistic.
     
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    It seems like posters and fans think the Blazers can contend with the roster more or less as is, while trading Simons for veteran? I just don't get that at all. Even with a healthy Dame this roster is nowhere close to contending. Getting into the playoffs sure, maybe winning one series sure, but a legit shot to win it all? No, that just is not realistic.

    Until management understands the above trying to contend around Dame very soon is just destined to failure.

    My hope is the team doesn't sacrifice their best young assets in such a doomed to fail endevour. Trade away CJ, Norm, Nurk, etc I'm fine with. Don't trade away unprotected picks nor trade away Simons.
     
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    How about Roco, Nurk and Powell for John Collins and Bogdanovich?
     
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    If you can hypnotize Atlanta into that there'll be a statue of you in PDX that even antifa wouldn't tear down.
     
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    Agreed. If we found a new home for CJ for a 3 or 4 I wouldn't be opposed to Powell for Marcus Smart. He'd be the ideal type of 3rd piece to make a backcourt with heavy minutes from Dame and Ant work.
     
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    while smart is a far better perimeter defender than any of our other guys, he's still 6'3. i don't want him guarding wings. our goal should be to avoid this 3 guard nonsense that Olshey put together
     
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    Well, Norman Powell is having a much better year than Bogdanovich at a lower salary. Atlanta may be having second thoughts about Bogdanovich,
     
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    a lot of teams run three guard lineups, it’s not an olshey creation. But no teams run 3 guard lineups where everyone is a shitty defender. That is.​
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    teams also don't run them for 40+ mins a game.
     
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    We could add Little also; I think Atlanta is looking for intensity and toughness.
     
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    The bulls do. The nuggets do. The pistons do. The rockets do. The clippers do. The lakers do. Should I go on?

    The thunder had three point guards average 30 minutes a couple seasons ago with Paul, SGA, and Schroder and was the primary reason for their success that year.

    The hornets ran three guard lineups last year and were doing well before Ball got injured.
     
  20. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    with all three guards 6'3 or shorter?

    lonzo and lavine are both like 6'6.

    SGA is 6'6.

    etc etc etc
     
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