The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

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  1. andalusian

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    In 1864 Spain and Peru went to war over bat shit (the guano wars). They were literally bat shit crazy.

    I believe that in 1879 Peru, Bolivia and Chile had a 2nd guanu war over the same resource...
     
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    If we keep Billups as the coach and more likely they will you trade and draft players that's fit his system if not you either fire him as a coach or he adjust his system to fit the players. Something I don't think he has done this year.
     
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    I wonder if Christian Woods is available? Stats have been declining since going to Houston. Was late for warmup0s last night and then refused to go back in for the second halof after being chastised for lack of effort. Would Simons plus Roco or Nurk to a third team (draft pick to Houston) be enough or too much?
     
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    Standing pat will result in a better win percentage than we currently have and worse lottery odds, if that's what we're going for. When CJ, Nurk, RoCo, Ant and Cody return from protocol or injury we will start winning more games because look at how different Dame is playing than he was before he got rest and treatment for his abdominal injury. So we either trade players that help us win but not win enough (CJ, Norm, Ant, Nas, RoCo, Larry, Nurk) to get more draft picks, young developing talent and tank or we try to get better now and risk losing our draft pick in order to build momentum going into next season.

    I don't know if Dame will be cool with that level of tanking. I'm not ready to give up on Dame or put him in a situation where we're asking him to sacrifice a year of his prime (it's looked like it's going to be a prime year since he returned) to get younger and set up the future. So I want trades that make us better.
     
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    So with it said that I want trades made that make our team better one idea I have is to trade Ant to the Thunder for draft picks (I think we could get two first rounders from them). Then we trade Nurk to the Raptors for Boucher, filler and their first rounder this year top 10 protected. I would then trade CJ, RoCo and the three first rounders we just acquired to the Sixers for Simmons and filler.

    We end up with a rotation of Dame, Norm, Simmons, Larry, Boucher, Nas, DSJ, Cody and either Tony or Ben Mac. I think that rotation gets us rolling in the right direction going into next season. I would try to get a contract extension done with Boucher for three years and 27M. If we make the playoffs we have all of our future picks available to deal in the off season and our top six players locked in for next season at 116.5M. If you add in 7 min contracts (~14M), our 2.8M in dead cap money and a player at the full MLE, we would end up right at the projected 145M luxury tax apron.

    This is what that trade would look like if done all at once but each trade does work individually as far as matching the salaries goes and it gets us way under the luxury tax.
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    lol. Simons is not going to fetch 2 first round picks.
     
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    Also, boucher is not good.

    we should learn our lesson that when really good coaches don’t give minutes to players, there’s usually a reason. (See Derrick Jones and spoelstra)
     
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    Boucher has been getting 24 minutes per game over the last ten games and his three point shooting percentage is coming back to his career average. Boucher not being phenomenal but really fitting with this lineup is why we would get a first out of the Raptors along with him for Nurk.

    As far as Ant goes, I think he really fits what the Thunder need, I think that his value around the league isn't as low as it is with us as Blazers fans because he's only 22, he can handle the ball, get anywhere he wants to on the court and score really effectively from wherever he wants. The guy is a bucket with elite level athleticism. The Thunder are hemorrhaging first round picks... they don't both have to be this year like in the trade I showed but this year's Suns and Clippers picks are guaranteed to be late in the first round.
     
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    Ant is also a RFA. If they want him, they have all the cap space in the world, they can just overpay to get him.
     
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    This helps both teams that need change:

    PDX - Gary Harris - hard nosed defender that could come off the bench or start
    Terrence Ross - small forward that can be instant offense
    Franz Wagner - young wing that can play inside out

    Magic - CJ
    Ant Simons
     
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    Interesting that you should bring up Orlando...
     
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    hows that?
    Cj fits there bringing up Suggs
     
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    Go on...
     
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    The Magic might be the least interested team in CJ in the entire NBA. They're not trading Franz either.
     
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    Why's that? to many guards?
     
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    They'd still have Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, Markelle Fultz, and Jalen Suggs after this trade, why would they want to get CJ and Ant on top of giving up a rookie wing who's probably 3rd in the ROY race right now?
     
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    Thunders three best players play the PG, SG and SF spots. They aren't giving up two firsts for a scoring guard that would be their 6th man. One that they can overpay through free agency in the offseason if they really want him.
     

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