The Best Player in the NBA.

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  1. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PFKApurehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">lookin at boring ole timmy d... do you think he would ever do anythin like that? bauhaha no.</div>

    Nah,He is too busy winning championships,MVP's e.t.c..oh and representing the USA...
     
  2. purehoops

    purehoops JBB KGSource

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">He is too busy winning championships,MVP's e.t.c</div>

    winning championships... ill give ya that... im startin to think the NBA wants the goodie goodie, clean image so the gave the MVP to a man who doesnt say anythin controversial... pretty much the boringest man in the NBA...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PFKApurehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">winning championships... ill give ya that... im startin to think the NBA wants the goodie goodie, clean image .</div>

    They need it after all the players that have got in trouble this summer


    http://www.basketballboards.net/forum/atta...=&postid=577578

    funny pic...Is KG pointing out what round he is always stuck every year or something? :P
     
  4. purehoops

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">They need it after all the players that have got in trouble this summer


    http://www.basketballboards.net/forum/atta...=&postid=577578

    funny pic...Is KG pointing out what round he is always stuck every year or something? :P</div>

    true lol... KG is good off court... hes not raping girls, beatin up people in bars, or getting duis (knock on wood)...

    lol actually that was pretty good joke...
     
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    sounds all good in here now!
     
  6. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PFKApurehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">true lol... KG is good off court... hes not raping girls, beatin up people in bars, or getting duis (knock on wood)...

    lol actually that was pretty good joke...</div>

    Yeah It's good that players like KG stay out of trouble....hell he doesn't want to speak to anyone during the off season...which Is understandable...
     
  7. Fiyah

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    Took me awhile to read this post and it seems to me that everyone has some valid points. Also seems like the argument is being pulled in three different directions all based on what the criteria is for the best player:

    1. The player most likely to dominate and thus make his team most likely to win the championship. Proponents of this argument often go with one of the three dominant big men in the league - Duncan, Shaq, or KG.

    2. The most versatile player or the player who contributes the most to his team such that his team would be hopelessly lost without him. Most people go with KG or T-Mac here ... with Duncan somewhere below those guys.

    3. Finally, there is the skill factor. Basketball is skill, athleticism, power, grace, versatility and speed. The most athletic and skillfull players who execute spectacularly difficult plays that no-one but they can do. Kobe and T-Mac get the nod here.

    So it all really depends on your criteria for what makes one the best player. I play in tournaments (not basketball but soccer) and many a year every player knows who the best player in the league is, and often he is not on the winningest team or the most unstoppable player. But as a player yourself you know who the best players are. I am going to go out on a limb and say that the players in the NBA would be split between Kobe and T-Mac as the best players in the league today. Duncan and Garnett and Shaq are anomalies that dominate the game because of their combination of height, speed, and strength and would be able to dominate in ways even MJ couldn't do ... but the best players in my mind will almost always be a guard.
     
  8. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big D:</div><div class="quote_post">I think people are going on a variety of different criteria. Depending on your definition of "best player," you could come up with about 10 different guys as the best.

    In terms of pure skills, I'd go with Kobe. In terms of all-around game, I'd go with Garnett. In terms of who I'd start my franchise with, I'd go with Duncan. In terms of who the best teammate is, I'd go with Kidd. In terms of most dominant, I'd go with Shaq. The list goes on.

    Let's just have a good debate here, and no one get angry if someone doesn't agree with you.</div>

    ^^Agreed ... Big D and Fiyah are correct ... you have to let people know your criteria and definition of what it means to be the "Best Player." For me best = domination, and no one dominates the league like Shaq can.
     
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    QUOTE=shapecityFor me best = domination, and no one dominates the league like Shaq can.[/QUOTE]

    Thats true,but Shaq did not dominate last year..Duncan did..and in a big way...mainly against L.A...that game 6 was a prefect example of "dominating"
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">QUOTE=shapecityFor me best = domination, and no one dominates the league like Shaq can.</div>Thats true,but Shaq did not dominate last year..Duncan did..and in a big way...mainly against L.A...that game 6 was a prefect example of "dominating"[/QUOTE]

    Yeah but I am pretty sure the topic was "The Best Player in the NBA" .. Not who had the best year last season. If you are going by domination there is no doubt that the best player is Shaq. It really bothers me that anyone can use domination as their main criteria and not choose Shaq! Shaq may be the most dominant player to ever play the game.
     
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    I was only mentioned the dominating factor...As shape mentioned it about Shaq..no doubt Shaq when he is on his game is a big force and can't be stopped..but Duncan can also dominate teams..which he has done over the years and this past season...

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq may be the most dominant player to ever play the game.</div>

    Quite possible,but my vote goes to Wilt..
     
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    The best player in the NBA is Kobe...
    The most dominant is Duncan.
     
  13. JWilltheFreak

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    Most dominate player in the league is ONEAL who can stop him
     
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    The best player in the regular season was KG but he always gets out in the 1st round.

    TD puts up almost same #'s accept the dimes but TD is more dominate player because he plays more in the post.

    And kobe is not the best player in the NBA the best all oround player in the NBA is KG 22 13 6
     
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    Just curious guys, which would you rather have?

    28 ppg, 8 rpg, 9 apg, 2 spg
    or
    22 ppg, 13 rpg, 6 apg, 1 spg
     
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    who avg 28 8 and 9?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">Just curious guys, which would you rather have?

    28 ppg, 8 rpg, 9 apg, 2 spg
    or
    22 ppg, 13 rpg, 6 apg, 1 spg</div>


    28,8, and 9 is better numbers than 22, 13, and 6.


    But if the player that has the 22, 13, and 6 leads his team to the title, where the 28, 8, and 9 guy doesn't, Id take the 22, 13, and 6 guy(assuming the teams have equal talent).

    Also, age and salary are taken into the equation as well.



    The 22, 13, and 6 are KG's.
    30, 7, and 6 are Kobe's
     
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    28 ppg, 8 rpg, 9 apg, 2 spg
    WHO AVG thos # and when????????????????
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWillTheFreak:</div><div class="quote_post">28 ppg, 8 rpg, 9 apg, 2 spg
    WHO AVG thos # and when????????????????</div>

    Kobe averaged about those #'s through the 2nd week of the season w/out Shaq..and that was before his insane scoring streak.
     
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    he did not avg that for the season he avg 30 6 and 6 right?
     

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