<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">u fell for the setup= u just admitted your belief that american lives are more worthwhile than "others".</div> There is nothing we can do about AIDS, it's not something we can cure right now. Those people are going to die, to be blunt with you. Unless you have $$$ you're going to shorten your life, and eventually die. American lives are worth no more than Arabian lives, everyone's life is equal. 3,000 innocent victims of a terror attack would put any country at war against terror, not just America. Britain, Germany, they would've all acted the same way. Israel, however, overreacted. They caused the death of 12 more soldiers than they should've. Because of two kidnapped soldiers, they've lost 15 Israeli civilians and 14 Israeli soldiers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">There is nothing we can do about AIDS, it's not something we can cure right now. Those people are going to die, to be blunt with you. Unless you have $$$ you're going to shorten your life, and eventually die. American lives are worth no more than Arabian lives, everyone's life is equal. 3,000 innocent victims of a terror attack would put any country at war against terror, not just America. Britain, Germany, they would've all acted the same way. Israel, however, overreacted. They caused the death of 12 more soldiers than they should've. Because of two kidnapped soldiers, they've lost 15 Israeli civilians and 14 Israeli soldiers.</div> its not about money, its about values and most people in the world value humanity. the us military budget eclipses the military spending of the next 11 nations combined. in fact, all other first world nations have geared their armed forces for defensive missions (peacekeeping) while israel , the americans and the third world are in the business of fighting. ever heard of the "military -industrial complex" ? get to know it.
I get deception's point about American's considering their own lives more valuable. The Rwandan Genocide was much more tragic, brutal, inhumane, etc. than 9/11. I know its hard to fathom, being that the attacks were so close to everyone, but it is true. Yet, most of the time the reaction tends to be that the genocide is over with and it was a regrettable tragedy. Meanwhile, the US is still fighting a war justified by the WTC terrorist attacks. Hurricane Katrina vs. the tsunami that devestated Indonesia and most of Asia is another example. The rest of the world has always been forced to have a bit more tolerance when it comes to tragedy, compared to the US and Israel. I guess that's just one of the benefits of having a ridiculously powerful military.
Deception your numbers comparison are a poor argument. that's the equivalent of going up to someone who's whole family was murdered and saying well big deal you only lost 4 people more people die in traffic accidents everyday. its not the numbers of dead that;s important but how they died and the intent of the peple who killed them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7wroSYRXJo <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not protecting the killing of 100's of Lebanese people, because it's wrong. But, unlike the terrorist groups, the deaths of these people is ACCIDENTAL. Israel's targets are only places related to the Hezbollah.</div> I'm actually of Syrian descent, born and raised in the states. Many of my family and friends are in Lebanon. Beirut was my favorite place on earth, and I've been all over it. I always find it intriguing how defenders of "Israel defending herself" has to put a disclaimer in front of statements like this "I'm not protecting the killing of 100's of Lebanese people, because it's wrong. But..." What's going on in Lebanon has gone beyond depressing. To answer "What occupation" How about the occupation of the Palestinian people? Do you know how long Hezbollah has been around? Where they got all of their recruiting power? Answer: After the last Israeli invasion in the early 80's. The irony is that there would be no Hezbollah if Israel had not invaded Lebanon the 1st time. The same goes for Hamas... Israel's policy of strike first, assasinate leaders, imprison, torture without trial, and virtually imprisoning an entire people created Hamas. Now the Lebanese people and the Palestinians in Gaza are paying the price for Israel’s earlier aggression. I ask you this... I saw pictures of Hezbollah rockets fired from buildings next to homes "as they were in Qana." These pictures were taken from fighter jets. How come we didn't see the actual pictures of the strike in Qana from the fighter jets? Why does it have to be ones "like it." Did those jets not have cameras? I’m not buying it. How many times are ACCIDENTS justifiable? Ambulances, Shelters, Lebanese Soldiers, UN watchtowers... Is the IDF intelligence that poor? This is the same source that led us into Iraq. They were the source of WMD intelligence. 1 of two things is true here, either the IDF has extremely poor intelligence (I'm not buying it) or the targets were intentional and ammount to Terror bombings. After all, what greater terror is there in the middle east that an F-16 and laser guided munitions.
Israel is still bombing without care. They've hit a UN outpost, killed hundreds of INNOCENT civilians, and they don't let up. They're not going to rid Hezbollah, they can't. More people will just fight. Israel is also moving very close to the Syrian border with their bombs. I wouldn't be surprised to see Syria get involved, either verbally or militarily.
IMO this situation could end up being the third world war. There has been nothing resolved between the naitons in the Middle East. I don't think it will escalate into somehting of that magnitude but it will get worse.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">IMO this situation could end up being the third world war. There has been nothing resolved between the naitons in the Middle East. I don't think it will escalate into somehting of that magnitude but it will get worse.</div> Has it not gotten so bad already? With the media and government so. . controlling nowadays, how do we really know what this is? Advances in technology will probably prevent another World War like the past 2, but casualty-wise, it'll be the same (IMHO). Syria will get involved, IMO, but after the whole border issues with Lebanon, they're not gonna help the Lebanese in any way. As for Israel, from a political standpoint, they're getting into too many rifts. Even with US backing, you can't have the entire Middle East hate you, and then you go invade a country over 2 soldiers. Here's a link to what words cannot describe. <font color="red">WARNING: Some of these images are graphic and might upset some of you guys. </font> [I know it upset me] Link If the Mods have a problem with the content, I fully understand the reasons for editing out the link. It's sad to see what the world has come to, eh?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7wroSYRXJo What's going on in Lebanon has gone beyond depressing. To answer "What occupation" How about the occupation of the Palestinian people? Do you know how long Hezbollah has been around? Where they got all of their recruiting power? Answer: After the last Israeli invasion in the early 80's. The irony is that there would be no Hezbollah if Israel had not invaded Lebanon the 1st time. The same goes for Hamas... Israel's policy of strike first, assasinate leaders, imprison, torture without trial, and virtually imprisoning an entire people created Hamas. Now the Lebanese people and the Palestinians in Gaza are paying the price for Israel?s earlier aggression. </div> I ask YOU a question: why did Israel invade Lebanon in the 80's? Because of Hezbollah. There already WAS a Hezbollah before Israel invaded Lebanon, so obviously, the invasion didn't create them. Since when is that Israel's policy? The country has been NOT striking for YEARS. When was the last time they assasinated a leader? And aren't Hamas and Hezbollah improsining the entire country as well?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post"> I'm actually of Syrian descent, born and raised in the states. Many of my family and friends are in Lebanon. Beirut was my favorite place on earth, and I've been all over it. I always find it intriguing how defenders of "Israel defending herself" has to put a disclaimer in front of statements like this "I'm not protecting the killing of 100's of Lebanese people, because it's wrong. But..." </div> What SHOULD Israel do then, when over 200 rockets are launched at will against Israeli citizens? Bend over? Or when Palestinian car bombs make its way over to Israel? Put a "welcome" sign out front? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> What's going on in Lebanon has gone beyond depressing. To answer "What occupation" How about the occupation of the Palestinian people? Do you know how long Hezbollah has been around? Where they got all of their recruiting power? Answer: After the last Israeli invasion in the early 80's. The irony is that there would be no Hezbollah if Israel had not invaded Lebanon the 1st time. The same goes for Hamas... Israel's policy of strike first, assasinate leaders, imprison, torture without trial, and virtually imprisoning an entire people created Hamas. Now the Lebanese people and the Palestinians in Gaza are paying the price for Israel?s earlier aggression. </div> Odd. I noticed you never mention the Syrian occupation of Israel. You don't have an agenda, do you? I noticed you said you were of Syrian ancestory. Guess that clears it up. Hezbollah was founded by Iran. It gets supported by Iran. And yes, it wouldn't exist if Israel existed...it also wouldn't exist without Iran. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> How many times are ACCIDENTS justifiable? Ambulances, Shelters, Lebanese Soldiers, UN watchtowers... Is the IDF intelligence that poor? This is the same source that led us into Iraq. They were the source of WMD intelligence. </div> Why does Hezbollah launch its rockets IN CIVILIAN ZONES AMONGST THE CIVILIANS and get a free pass from you? If Hezbollah was operating, say...away from Lebanese towns....where do you think the fighting would occur? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> 1 of two things is true here, either the IDF has extremely poor intelligence (I'm not buying it) or the targets were intentional and ammount to Terror bombings. After all, what greater terror is there in the middle east that an F-16 and laser guided munitions.</div> What do you call 200 plus rockets being fired into your country for no other reason than for trying to kill as many Zionist Israelis as possible? Oh...freedom fighters.
