The Brilliance of the Evan Turner Signing: Creating Catch and Shoot Opportunities for Our Shooters

Really?

So its okay for him to belittle my comparison with off the wall comparisons of his own, but we have to let him have his say even though he stomped on mine without the ability to rebuttal him? I normally like many of your posts because your spot on, but on this, your off bro.

Come on. BNM is correct, again... Thats not how it works.

 

No post game!?!?!

Nonsense!

http://www.nba.com/video/games/blazers/2016/07/10/1521600018-sas-por-play2.nba/

 

That's where I disagree. I was simply responding in the same type of flambouyant manner in which he replied to my post with.

Yes, I know it would be perceived poorly, but I didn't think I would have off the court comparisons to justify my being off. Doesn't make sense. So with that laughable response, I provided an even more laughable one.

Check my posts. Those who converse rationally and calm, almost always get the same from me. Those who post in extremes, usually get the same from me.

 

Nice move, but let's be honest. That was a defensive lapse and Vonleh had a wide open lane to the rim. Not exactly Hakeem. Ha probably could have made that move.

I do think Vonleh has some decent post moves in him though.

 

Absolutely not.

Huge difference between these two responses no?

"So he's going to become an embarrassment to the franchise and get in trouble with the law? I can see that, I guess. I'm assuming you don't mean his play because I can't think of two more different players. Zach is an un-athletic, EXTREMELY skilled, low post scorer. Vonleh is uber athletic and has virtually no low post game to speak of"


"Well their on-court games and tools couldn't be much more different, so you must be suggesting that Vonleh is going to form 'Hoops Family II"

If you think they are the same response, then we read and internalize much differently than one another. His first comment/question is about off the court issues. If maybe he would have said he thinks they are so different on the court, he would ask me to explain my assumption. Not ask questions trying to lure me in.

I do get fired up. Im fired up about this team, about how many fans we have compared to capita polls of other cities. Im fired up in general because I am an energetic person. Doesn't mean I cant be level headed and/or get amped up to try to match what seems to be the same type of fired up statement.

I read his statement as all fired up over mine. I do not read yours as the same. I mean he YELLED the word Extremely skilled. Maybe I misunderstood his fire, but remember this is the internet. I KNOW Im misunderstood by some people here... oh well. I still acknowledge that its on me for being misunderstood. Its how you post and type. So yes the view of MM being fired up about my post is on him and how he posted.

Anyhow. All overblown. I was simply reacting to MM who was reacting to me. Oh well.

 

Well, I will agree with MM on that one. That looked nothing like the Zach Randolph I remember. Of course, my memory may be faulty. I see Zach had 23 dunks his 3rd year in POR (compared to the 33 Vonleh had last season). So, he wasn't always the earthbound misfit I remember.

Still, Z-Bo has had a TOTAL of 33 dunks in the last five seasons, including only 1 last year. Something tells me Vonleh will probably surpass Zach's 15-year career dunk total of 129 by the time he turns 23.

BNM

 

Back to my original thought. that was so heavily twisted and scrutinized of which I got heat for joining the twisting.....

I see Vonleh as providing the same type of numbers Randolph did. Maybe slightly less, but I also see Vonlehs D being much better than Randolph potentially... because I think Vonleh is quicker.
Just the eye test so far and I am comparing Vonleh of now to Zach of the last 7 years, because that's the most time I've seen him play.
So maybe I should say I could see Vonleh becoming what Randolph is/was for Memphis.
I don't think he will be as good of a post player, but he will have a better outside shot, he will reek havoc in the paint on D and be able to run the court.
He will provide a PF impact to our team that we haven't really since since him ( Not considering LMA)

That's all i'm trying to say. If you want to disagree fine, but don't bring up off the court issues because it really is irrelevant and an attempt to derail the convo.

 

I don't suffer fools easily. When someone posts something I think is asinine, I call them out, regardless of who they are. I just find some posters more consistently asinine than others.

But, it doesn't always require a long post to point out this behavior. My only long posts in this thread are actually about Evan Turner and the benefits he'll bring to this team. You know, completely on topoc and hopefully relevant.

BNM

 

we read in different colors then. The order in which it was typed is a huge difference in the level of mockery or trolling in my opinion. HE didn't approach his post with a rational start.
Either way isn't it about how its perceived, not how it was said?

I can say I'm the coolest due on this site, but if everyone perceives that as being egotistical and thus not true, or simply incorrect, then aren't I egotistical because that's the perception, regardless of the whether some people think i'm cool or not?

This is a forum of which I have admittedly been guilty of as well, but perception is all we have here. Cant hear tone of voice, or volume, so all we have left is how you put your words together in type. So to put some obnoxious question first and for most in the response is to me, much different than asking rational questions about how I came to my opinion and then maybe tossing the off the court stuff out there as a side note... much like you did.

Im not perfect and probably worse than most around here at how I bring my point of view when it comes to being tolerable and clear, but I still understand its way important to be understood correctly around here.

 

I didn't complain about his responses once. I just kept calling him out when he said he didn't compare their off court behavior when he clearly did. It may have been tongue-in-cheek, but he was the one that started the whole nonsensical, unfounded, off court comparison bullshit.

BNM

 

The ignore feature is your friend...

BNM

 

I agree. However my history with MM has not been very positive or light. My perception is he often makes comments that seem to be trying to get under another's skin.

It's not something that even bothers me, other than I am quicker than I should be to try to join that type of party.

My perception may be completely wrong, but it is my perception, none the less.